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Turkey should forget about the privileged partnership also

Postby Piratis » Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:59 pm

French Interior Minister and presidential hopeful Nicolas Sarkozy has now said Turkey must recognize Republic of Cyprus to have a "privileged partnership" with the European Union.


I assume RoC would not accept any Turkey-EU "privileged partnership" either.

The Turks think they can always get what they want but I think enough is enough with them.

Lets see their stock market crashing and their economy going to hell. That might bring them back to their senses.
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Postby cypezokyli » Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:50 pm

lets first wait for the final report of the commission (its only some day more) , and then we can discuss such slogans....
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Postby Piratis » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:39 pm

Reports come and go. What is important here is the essence. The essence is that the free ride for Turkey is coming to an end. Turkey will have to decide if she is willing to follow a road of EU accession that at different stages she will be required to make concessions in regards to the Cyprus issue, or if she will end her accession process with all the negative consequences that this will have for her. So far it seems they are choosing the second.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:16 pm

I would love for Turkey to say "to hell with the EU" and walk away from it all. That would be my birthday, christmas and new year rolled into one.
The Eu cannot be trusted. It is an exclusive Christians club and should remain so. Look at the promises made to the TC's at the time of the referendum. Have they kept any? Like fuck.
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Postby alexISS » Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:57 pm

mrfromng wrote:I would love for Turkey to say "to hell with the EU" and walk away from it all. That would be my birthday, christmas and new year rolled into one.
The Eu cannot be trusted. It is an exclusive Christians club and should remain so. Look at the promises made to the TC's at the time of the referendum. Have they kept any? Like fuck.


If you celebrate Christmas, why does it bother you that the EU is a christian club?
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Re: Turkey should forget about the privileged partnership al

Postby Kikapu » Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:11 am

Piratis wrote:
French Interior Minister and presidential hopeful Nicolas Sarkozy has now said Turkey must recognize Republic of Cyprus to have a "privileged partnership" with the European Union.


I assume RoC would not accept any Turkey-EU "privileged partnership" either.

The Turks think they can always get what they want but I think enough is enough with them.

Lets see their stock market crashing and their economy going to hell. That might bring them back to their senses.



I hope it is very clear to all, that EU never wanted Turkey in their "Christian Club" and that Cyprus was being used as a "Trojan Horse" to keep her out, by accepting Cyprus into the EU Club.!!

But guess what, Turkey will welcome the EU's rejection. It must be because, Turkey have other ideas for her self, that does not include the EU.!!

Let's be realistic. Turkey is not in the business of committing a "political or economic suicide" by ignoring EU. Turkey must have "privileged partnership" with individual EU members in the works, that can not be vetoed by Cyprus. I would caution those who are about to celebrate Turkey's demise.!!
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Postby Piratis » Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:00 am

EU countries have to follow specific EU rules and can not have any kind of partnership with 3rd countries that they wish. So no partnership with an EU country individually can be too privileged.

Turkey should realize that they can not keep north Cyprus forever. Their occupation will never be legalized, and therefore they will have to withdraw sooner or later. For them it would be much better to do it sooner, but I guess their internal politics will not allow them to do this.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:22 am

Piratis wrote:EU countries have to follow specific EU rules and can not have any kind of partnership with 3rd countries that they wish. So no partnership with an EU country individually can be too privileged.

Turkey should realize that they can not keep north Cyprus forever. Their occupation will never be legalized, and therefore they will have to withdraw sooner or later. For them it would be much better to do it sooner, but I guess their internal politics will not allow them to do this.


You still persist with this arrogant attitude that all hell will break lose if Turkeys accession talks stop or Turkey is turned or turns away from the EU.

Thanks for being concerned for the Turks which is a joke in itself but you seem to conveniently disregard what will happen to the "RoC" the only divided "country" in the EU with a disinterested Turkey an no EU leverage to get what you want? who will you run to then? UN??? USA?? UK?? I get a strong feeling that your cries for help will fall on death ears.

If GCs really want to unite this country then they will compromise eg Maraş for direct trade, political equality for refugees to return, recognition for reunification etc....using a veto will only cement division, if you cant see this then you really need to go to an optician so he can diagnose the fact that you are blind.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Nov 02, 2006 9:41 am

I am not concerned with the Turks. Unfortunately for them their well being will be sacrificed so the Turkish Generals will get to keep the occupation of northern Cyprus for some time more.

Turks should stop their illegalities in Cyprus. They should start making steps in that direction. What we have asked from them now is just a small step but they are not willing to do even that. So why it will be in our interests for Turks to continue their EU accession process while we get nothing in return? If they give nothing, they will get nothing. As simple as that.

We getting nothing and them getting nothing, is much better than we getting nothing, and them getting whatever they want, isn't it?
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:22 am

You getting nothing with hope and leverage is better than you getting nothing and having no hope or any leverage dont you think?
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