I find the reference of Greek Speaking Cyprus or Cypriots as
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| miltiades |
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VP , WROTE :We have been separated for over 32 years, what do you expect we have never been made to feel part of the "RoC" and we do not feel it belongs to us. We are the TRNC even with all its faults and until we are faced with situation that is better than what we have today no TCs will see us as one nation. This is a reality you have to some to terms with. The we are all Cypriots ideology today is like 46 years to late and in order for it to gain ground actions to create such a situation are necessary, just saying it doesn't make it true. """
you do talk a load of bullocks vp. You have your head buried in an Anatolian brothel , wake up man Cyprus is one for all , what is this bullshit about two islands two nations , there is plenty of room in Anatolia for you and all those who want to turn our island into a hore for some f.. ng foreign power . Wake up , Cyprus is CYPRUS NOT "CYPRUS " |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:54 am |
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| pitsilos |
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| there is only one nation and unoficially a pseudo province, and soon to be a full fledge province. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:33 am |
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These terms, Greek & Turkish Cypriot are institutionalised; just this morning there's a story about Papadopoulos saying "the Greek-Cypriot side" has responded positively to Gambari's latest letter.
Is it unconscious or deliberate? I don't know; but if this government claims to represent all of Cyprus' citizens, its words should reflect this. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:23 am |
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| you do talk a load of bullocks vp. You have your head buried in an Anatolian brothel , wake up man Cyprus is one for all , what is this bullshit about two islands two nations , there is plenty of room in Anatolia for you and all those who want to turn our island into a hore for some f.. ng foreign power . Wake up , Cyprus is CYPRUS NOT "CYPRUS " |
And you appear to be in outer space and out of touch with the real world well again I'm sorry to be the one to tell you of some truths but the we are all Cypriots wears a bit thin when actions do not reinforce what you preach. Cyprus can and has been shared for many years, even today we are sharing peacefully and without harming each other isn't that what we want? We tried the we are Cypriots lets live together shit in 1960 and we all know what happened. If your belief is to become reality then your leaders have to act and not just talk bullshit, they claim that they represent all Cypriots well why don't they act that way and take measures to work with TCs rather than against them, is that GC we are all Cypriots philosophy? |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:30 am |
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| viewpoint it is not 46 years old. it is a progressive todays thought if you want to be stuck 46 years back that is a choice you are making. no matter what i say you may oppose it...... the important aspect here is do we want to move forward or do we wish to saty back in the 1960's. i bet that none of us on this chat line are 46 years old although some of us very close yuks! not really am lookin foraward to my 40th birthday. so the question to all Cypriots particularly the young do we want a new future for ourselves and our families and the generations to come? |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:41 am |
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| humanist wrote: |
| viewpoint it is not 46 years old. it is a progressive todays thought if you want to be stuck 46 years back that is a choice you are making. no matter what i say you may oppose it...... the important aspect here is do we want to move forward or do we wish to saty back in the 1960's. i bet that none of us on this chat line are 46 years old although some of us very close yuks! not really am lookin foraward to my 40th birthday. so the question to all Cypriots particularly the young do we want a new future for ourselves and our families and the generations to come? |
I want to move forwards but learning from the past so that we do not repeat the same mistakes, united or divided a decision has to be finally made but one that will ensure one community cannot dominate or hinder the other. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:48 am |
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| reportfromcyprus wrote: |
These terms, Greek & Turkish Cypriot are institutionalised; just this morning there's a story about Papadopoulos saying "the Greek-Cypriot side" has responded positively to Gambari's latest letter.
Is it unconscious or deliberate? I don't know; but if this government claims to represent all of Cyprus' citizens, its words should reflect this. |
It is very deliberate. We know we are the Greek Cypriot side, according to the 1960 constitution there are two main ethnic communities in Cyprus, the Greeks and the Turks. It is the Turks who claim to be a separate independent state. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:21 am |
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| miltiades |
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VP WROTE:
"""have to act and not just talk bullshit, they claim that they represent all Cypriots well why don't they act that way and take measures to work with TCs rather than against them, is that GC we are all Cypriots philosophy? ""
What would you suggest the ROC government does. Recognise the occupied part of Cyprus and accept the 40 thousand Turkish troops as peace keepers ! . The ROC is not refusing to accord full rights to T/Cs , the issuing of passports is not restricted to the G/Cs the provision of health care is availbale and it is enjoyed by the T/Cs , but it will not accept the division of your country and mine. Mistakes are made and the state must ensure that it is actively repressenting all of it's people.
A political party will emerge sooner rather than later to embrace politicians whose goals willl be clearly defined and focused on the unification of our island and the removal of all foreign political influence, mainly from Turkey and Greece. The ROC must also recognise that a section of our people might object to the perceived notion that Cyprus is the exclusive homeland of one section only albeit being the majority.VP , untill such tiime that we embrace what is commonly ours , our identity as Cypriots , something that you find absurd , and yet you ask a thousand Cypriots , Greek or Turkish to deny the Cypriot entity and the overwhelming majority will not .
Turks and Greeks are Cypriot first. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:26 am |
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| miltiades wrote: |
VP WROTE:
"""have to act and not just talk bullshit, they claim that they represent all Cypriots well why don't they act that way and take measures to work with TCs rather than against them, is that GC we are all Cypriots philosophy? ""
What would you suggest the ROC government does. Recognise the occupied part of Cyprus and accept the 40 thousand Turkish troops as peace keepers ! . The ROC is not refusing to accord full rights to T/Cs , the issuing of passports is not restricted to the G/Cs the provision of health care is availbale and it is enjoyed by the T/Cs , but it will not accept the division of your country and mine. Mistakes are made and the state must ensure that it is actively repressenting all of it's people.
A political party will emerge sooner rather than later to embrace politicians whose goals willl be clearly defined and focused on the unification of our island and the removal of all foreign political influence, mainly from Turkey and Greece. The ROC must also recognise that a section of our people might object to the perceived notion that Cyprus is the exclusive homeland of one section only albeit being the majority.VP , untill such tiime that we embrace what is commonly ours , our identity as Cypriots , something that you find absurd , and yet you ask a thousand Cypriots , Greek or Turkish to deny the Cypriot entity and the overwhelming majority will not .
Turks and Greeks are Cypriot first. |
This is what you want to believe have you actually tried asking 1000 "Cypriots" what they think? The GC leadership could be more pro active in encouraging schemes across the border that will allow both sides to see we can work together. They have to encourage Tcs to take their place in the "RoC" and gradually understand that the south is not out to take away or suppress their rights. In other words the south has to start acting European towards Tcs and accept that they have to share everything on this island equally. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:37 am |
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| pitsilos |
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| In other words the south has to start acting European towards Tcs and accept that they have to share everything on this island equally |
does the stealing/selling of properties that don't belong to you translate to equally sharing?
i bet your manual would have something to say about this.  |
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