Treatment of GC's under Ottoman rule...
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 Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:26 pm |
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| eracles |
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Interesting book on google books written in 1792. provides some good context I think.
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On the particular page I've linked to it talks a little about the treatment of 'greeks' on the island.
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| "Nothing proves in a more striking manor the profound contempt which their governors entertain for their unhappy subjects. Not contented with putting them up for sale like cattle, and purchasing the right of tormenting them at their ease, they do not attempt to colour over their violence, and to most burthensome impositions add the most insulting derision. Can we be astonished therefore that so many outrages should sometimes arouse the vengeance of these irritated people? and can we blame them for daring to remember that they are men? |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:39 am |
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| Sotos |
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Google Books is amazing! The Turks treated us very badly. The sad thing is that some TCs think that the Ottomans were super nice with us.  |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:58 am |
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| Piratis |
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eracles, the division of the Cypriot people between slaves (GCs/Christians) and masters (Turks/Muslims) is the root of the Cyprus problem that started during the Ottoman rule.
Some should finally realize that we now live in the 21 century and they can not insist that the population of a country can still be divided in a racist Apartheid way because it suits them now as it suited them back in 1792.
Unfortunately they still think that because they have the big guns they can still force such kind of illegalities and crimes.
And then the Turks who are stuck in the middle ages they expected to be allowed to enter the EU without changing their middle age mentality first. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:11 am |
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| bg_turk |
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Oh the poor slave piratis, a member of the cypriot nation of victimhood, always morally right, rarely responsible for what happened, never accountable for his actions, forever entitled to sympathy, and the eternal right to feel moral indignation for being wronged.
This forum is slowly turning into a competition, where everybody is trying to leapfrog over others in order to get the status of being a victim, oppressed, and you piratis are constantly reaching new lows. How exactly were you a slave? |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:36 am |
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Sure, now blame us because we were ruled and oppressed by the Turks.
What happened then? Some Cypriot fisherman lost his way and went to the Ottoman ruled areas, punched a Turk, and thats why Greek Cypriots are to blame for being enslaved by the Turks for 300 years? Yeah, I guess we are responsible for that as well. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:07 pm |
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| It's too simplistic to state that people were slaves or masters according to their ethnicity. If that were so why were there so many poor Turkish peasants when the Empire ended in the 1920s. Also there were Christians who prospered within the Empire, although I'm not intending to justify it. The Ottoman Empire was not a nationalistic in outlook but more religious in nature. If it were nationalistic they would have attempted to behave in the way the Nazi's did towards minorities or the way the British did in Ireland. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:13 pm |
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| bg_turk wrote: |
Oh the poor slave piratis, a member of the cypriot nation of victimhood, always morally right, rarely responsible for what happened, never accountable for his actions, forever entitled to sympathy, and the eternal right to feel moral indignation for being wronged.
This forum is slowly turning into a competition, where everybody is trying to leapfrog over others in order to get the status of being a victim, oppressed, and you piratis are constantly reaching new lows. How exactly were you a slave? |
I didn't expect you to sympathise, the Turks of Bulgaria did the same things to Bulgarians |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:10 pm |
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| alexISS wrote: |
I didn't expect you to sympathise, the Turks of Bulgaria did the same things to Bulgarians |
Sympathise with what? His rants, maons and groans for eternal victimhood?
If the Ottoman Empire had done 1/100 of what Britain did in India or Spain did in South America, you all would be speaking Turkish now and wouldn't be complaining like broken tapes. But no, the stupid Turks let you have your own schools and keep your own religion. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:12 pm |
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| bg_turk wrote: |
| alexISS wrote: |
I didn't expect you to sympathise, the Turks of Bulgaria did the same things to Bulgarians |
Sympathise with what? His rants, maons and groans for eternal victimhood?
If the Ottoman Empire had done 1/100 of what Britain did in India or Spain did in South America, you all would be speaking Turkish now and wouldn't be complaining like broken tapes. But no, the stupid Turks let you have your own schools and keep your own religion. |
oh well, least we agree on something... |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:20 pm |
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Does that mean that if TCs are treated in the way that they treated us it will be fine with you? Is keeping your language and religion all you are asking for, and beyond that you can be treated as slaves and be expected to say "thank you" on top of that?
Because this is what you expect from us apparently. To say "thank you" because you could have killed us all (like you tried to do with the Armenians) but instead you prefer to keep us alive so you could use as like slaves.
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| Sympathise with what? His rants, maons and groans for eternal victimhood? |
Not eternal. What goes around comes around. It is not a moan, it is a warning. If you don't stop the crimes against us, then you should expect to be paid back in kind. |
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