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Postby Kifeas » Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:32 pm

Bananiot wrote:Tess, we should't allow Papadopoulos and the thick heads have it all their way. The borders will not close!


When did Papadopoulos say that he wants to close the "boarders?" Which boarders? You mean the occupation roadblocks? Since when they are called boarders? Which two countries do they separate?
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Postby zan » Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:35 pm

Oh haven't you heard........

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Postby miltiades » Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:42 pm

Foreign investors who choose to disregard the legal aspects surrounding their purchase are naive and utterly stupid to say the least. I would most certainly object if the only property that I possess in the occupied part , for which property I paid legally , is sold to a Russian or any other cheapskate. Those that have bought their property legally have nothing to worry about. Crossing the border is perfectly safe for all law abiding citizens.
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Postby Bananiot » Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:29 pm

When the borders opened in April 2003, Papadopoulos's ministers hurried to the Ledra Palace crossing urging people not to cross. Our government was speechless for a long time and had no idea how to cope with new situation.

Call them borders, checkpoints whatever you like. I will not waste my time engaging in the tyrrany of words.
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Postby bg_turk » Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:30 pm

miltiades wrote:Those that have bought their property legally have nothing to worry about. Crossing the border is perfectly safe for all law abiding citizens.


Having in mind that most Turkish Cypriot refugees live on or are otherwise involved in formerly Greek property, that would not appear to be so.
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Postby cypezokyli » Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:07 pm

bg_turk wrote:
miltiades wrote:Those that have bought their property legally have nothing to worry about. Crossing the border is perfectly safe for all law abiding citizens.


Having in mind that most Turkish Cypriot refugees live on or are otherwise involved in formerly Greek property, that would not appear to be so.


bg_turk you know very well that this is not going to happen and i really dont know why you insist on that . :roll:
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Postby paaul12 » Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:44 pm

I do not know any country in the world in which it is not illegal for anyone to trade, develop, exploit or usurp property without the consent of its lawful owner;



Then you do not know about The Karelian question, when will this land be returned to its former owners?

The Karelian question arose when Finland was forced to cede territories to the Soviet Union after the Winter War in the Moscow peace treaty in 1940. All Finnish citizens were evacuated from the ceded areas. Most of them returned during the Continuation War and eventually were evacuated again in 1944. Because the vast majority of the evacuees who had to settle to the rest of Finland were from ceded Karelia, the question was labeled The Karelian Question. After the Winter War Karelian municipalities and parishes founded Karjalan Liitto to defend Karelians' rights.

During the Cold War, Johannes Virolainen was a politician who lobbied for the return of Karelia. President Urho Kekkonen also tried to reacquire the territory, especially when Finnish control of Porkkala was restored in 1956.[1] There was, however, no significant public controversy about the case, because Kekkonen wanted to keep it quiet.[2] The last time Kekkonen tried to raise it was in 1972, but he had no success, and public discussion died out in the 1970s.[3] After the breakup of the Soviet Union, the Karelian question re-surfaced.
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Postby bg_turk » Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:51 pm

I do not know any country in the world in which it is not illegal for anyone to trade, develop, exploit or usurp property without the consent of its lawful owner;


Whoever said that should look no further than Greece, the country that illegally stole and still refuses to return the properties of Chams.
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:37 pm

bg_turk wrote:
I do not know any country in the world in which it is not illegal for anyone to trade, develop, exploit or usurp property without the consent of its lawful owner;


Whoever said that should look no further than Greece, the country that illegally stole and still refuses to return the properties of Chams.


I have never come across or ever heard of any ECtHR decision condemning Greece for violating the property (human) rights of the “Chams” all these years, therefore I doubt the validity and truthfulness of your allegations.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:43 pm

There are no borders within Cyprus to be closed. Simply RoC will apply the laws as best as it can to protect its own citizens from crooks and criminals. If the Turks want to add one more illegality to the 10000s they commit already they can stop people from crossing to the occupied areas. They can only harm themesleves with such action, so let them do it.
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