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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:34 pm

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Well you eventually want to get to the point where no limit is required and people have long forgotten ethnic differences.


That would be the ultimate goal but this can only be achieved in time and not forced, building trust and understanding between the 2 communities will eventually pay dividends.
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Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:50 pm

Kerravon , I'm not going to waste any further of my time reading any more stupid and ignorant posts dealing with
me having to apply as an immigrant to return to my village. Are you thick or just plain stupid. How the fuck can you dickhead call someone whose ancestress came from a village in Cyprus an IMMIGRANT . WHAT A DICK HEAD!!
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Postby kerravon » Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:18 pm

Viewpoint wrote:kerravon
Well you eventually want to get to the point where no limit is required and people have long forgotten ethnic differences.


That would be the ultimate goal but this can only be achieved in time and not forced, building trust and understanding between the 2 communities will eventually pay dividends.

Sure, I totally agree. Which was exactly what my original plan was. Starting the process of building trust. Allowing the TC to integrate at a rate that they are comfortable with. In the same way that European countries are integrating in the EU at a rate that they are comfortable with. We have a working model already.

Do you see a problem with my original plan? Would 51% of the GC and TC accept it? It required the GC to show their magnimity and trustworthiness by disbanding their army. Judging from the reaction here, the GC are neither magnamious nor trustworthy.

Would you like to propose a variation on the plan, simply replacing Turkish troops with NATO troops, if the GC are unwilling to disband their army? Can you put your trust in NATO, even though the GC are untrustworthy? I don't like this solution as much myself, as NATO will be required to defend against a hostile GC majority, meaning ground troops would probably be required. The other way around (my original proposal) all you need is a few NATO planes to blast the crap out of the TC if for some reason the TC minority decide to try to conquer the majority for some unimaginable reason.
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Postby miltiades » Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:29 pm

VP , give up on this psychopath look at what he posted a little while ago !!!

"""There is another way this problem might be solved. America hasn't yet started the war to eradicate Islam from the face of the earth. It's still doing some data gathering in Afghanistan and Iraq to find out whether education or genocide is required. If the TC are Muslims, you're going to be hit by 48:29 in the Qur'an which turns Muslims into religious bigots, and thus up against the Anglophones who are anti-religious-bigotry. There may not be any TC left. Or Turks either. """
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Postby humanist » Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:33 am

That was a lovely display of racism Keravon..... being Australian is being able to recognise the wrongs and make them right an apology to the Aboriginal people of this country is important to them.

If I follow your argument I would have to say that Greek Speaking Cypriots need not apologise to Turkish Speaking Cypriots for the racism they experienced in the 1950's - 60's. And ouhgt to kiss and make up. I did not once personally attack you and you have shown enough venom of the racist Australia that we both live in. If I were Turkish Speaking Cypriot I would be very weary with the like of you. At least with greek Speaking Cypriots they know where they stand.

By the way would you care to inform the forum on your views on the Lebanese Youth of Australia. Am sure if you and other white Anglo Australians with your integration politics you could fix them right?

Watch your language mate ...... "swamped" so what if Asians attend the most eliet schools they have the will, knowledge, and money to educatetheir children so why not send them to the best schools. Australia is built on migrant labour, sweat and tears. Anyaway I am really sorry that you have proven me right about racism in Australia. I have been called a wog many times before and I am immune to it so call me anything you like, I will choose as to whether I will allow it to impact on me or not. A master is one who knows of pain but does not experience it unless he chooses to do so.

I would strongly recomend a great series of books by an American author Neale donald Walsch - Conversations with God. If you can get past chapter one you may learn something if you can apply it in your daily life you may make some changes in the world. That is the best gift I can give you at this present time.

Good luck and may peace be with you.
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Postby kerravon » Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:00 am

humanist wrote:That was a lovely display of racism Keravon.....

No, it is a display of the Australian ethos of ANTI-RACISM. And that includes anti-white racists like you. Racists are not welcome here. You are not an Australian.

being Australian is being able to recognise the wrongs and make them right an apology to the Aboriginal people of this country is important to them.

No, being Australian is to not blame innocent people for things they didn't do. And to not expect apologies for things that didn't happen to you, but merely because of your skin colour. You are not Australian, so you don't appreciate this. You will never be an Australian. You will always be a wog.

If I follow your argument I would have to say that Greek Speaking Cypriots need not apologise to Turkish Speaking Cypriots for the racism they experienced in the 1950's - 60's.

Unless a GC personally committed the racism, that is correct. You don't "inherit guilt" based on the fact that you speak the same language as a criminal. Or the same sex. Or the same race. Or the same nationality. Nor do you "inherit suffering" either. Everyone is an individual and responsible for his/her own actions. Until you can understand that, you will never be an Australian, regardless of what your passport says. You don't have Australian ethos.

And ouhgt to kiss and make up.

Yes, that is exactly what needs to happen.

I did not once personally attack you

You demonstrated that you were a racist. That is enough. If you had been racist against Turks I would have similarly responded. As I more-or-less have done so against GCs here dragging up ancient history that Turks have done (ie invading Cyprus centuries ago). This racism causes wars.

and you have shown enough venom of the racist Australia that we both live in.

You are too stupid to realise that Australia is the least racist country in the world. That's why you were let in in the first place. We had hoped that you would drop your racism at the airport, but alas, it didn't happen. Hopefully your children will be Australians instead of wogs. That's what normally happens.

If I were Turkish Speaking Cypriot I would be very weary with the like of you. At least with greek Speaking Cypriots they know where they stand.

Well, that's up to the TC to decide. I can explain my philosophy, which is anti-racist and anti-religious-bigot. If the TC are racist or religious bigots, they should indeed be afraid of me, as should you. I am plotting to wipe racists and religious bigots off the face of the planet.

By the way would you care to inform the forum on your views on the Lebanese Youth of Australia. Am sure if you and other white Anglo Australians with your integration politics you could fix them right?

Yes, once again we have a problem with immigrants being racist and religious bigots. This is in direct confrontation with Australian ethos of anti-racism and anti-religious-bigotry. We have an ideological clash that doesn't just extend to them, but across the globe.

Watch your language mate ...... "swamped" so what if Asians attend the most eliet schools they have the will, knowledge, and money to educatetheir children so why not send them to the best schools.

What language moron? "swamped" is not derogatory. And I'm not complaining about Asians attending the most elite schools. I'm asking you if that suggests that Australia is racist in favour of Asians, or whether it is an indicator that Asians are phenomenally successful in Australia precisely because we don't have racial discrimination here. No-one is holding back Asians or any other group. They are free to compete like everyone else. It's a free country. The rest of the world should be learning from us.

Australia is built on migrant labour, sweat and tears. Anyaway I am really sorry that you have proven me right about racism in Australia.

It is you that has proven that foreigners come to Australia bringing their racism with them instead of checking it in at the airport. We're the ones letting you in in the first place, yet you have the audacity to call us the racists.

I have been called a wog many times before and I am immune to it so call me anything you like, I will choose as to whether I will allow it to impact on me or not.

And I have yet to meet a single Australian (born here) who wouldn't be best friends with someone, regardless of his race/religion, so long as that person shares AUSTRALIAN VALUES, which includes anti-racism (or at least non-racism), and which ALSO includes racism against whites.

I would strongly recomend a great series of books by an American author Neale donald Walsch - Conversations with God.

If you want to learn about God, read www.mutazilah.org

God abhors racists like you. God is anti-racist.

Good luck and may peace be with you.

I'm not after peace, I'm after freedom. And human rights. At that means exterminating racists like you from the planet. You are a direct threat to non-racists and anti-racists.

BTW, you also railed against capitalism. It's centuries of capitalism that has built up Australia, and you came here and inherited it all for free, while having the audacity to complain about it. Where do you people come from??? Do you have no shame or morals at all?
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Postby humanist » Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:26 am

you are totally laughable!
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Postby miltiades » Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:31 am

""" If the TC are racist or religious bigots, they should indeed be afraid of me, as should you. I am plotting to wipe racists and religious bigots off the face of the planet. """

Blimey mate You need help before you start wiping out 99% of the world's population. Someone ought to tell the police about you or may be have you referred for help.
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Postby kerravon » Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:16 pm

miltiades wrote:""" If the TC are racist or religious bigots, they should indeed be afraid of me, as should you. I am plotting to wipe racists and religious bigots off the face of the planet. """

Blimey mate You need help before you start wiping out 99% of the world's population. Someone ought to tell the police about you or may be have you referred for help.

The Anglophones are already anti-racist and anti-religious-bigotry. And we have far superior weaponry to everyone else, and a long list of (admittedly imperfect) allies. We now need to strategically deploy our resources to secure ourselves from our ideological enemies.

America was attacked by racists and religious bigots on 9/11. In order to avoid future attacks we need to properly respond. It's not just racist Arabs, it's any racist (if we do a proper job).

We will use racist allies against other racists when we get the opportunity.

I operate within the law, so seek to deploy calculated violence via the government forces. It is easier to deal with overseas racists than home-grown racists, so that is what is being done first.

But yeah, it's a big job to spread Australia's ideology across the globe. But that is what needs to be done to secure US, UK, Australia and other non-racists or anti-racists. BTW, most of Europe has non-racist governments, even if the people are racist. They should be anti-racist instead of non-racist, but nevermind, can't have everything. North and South Cyprus have non-racist governments too.
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Postby miltiades » Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:21 pm

You will need a lot of Kangaroo power to that mate.
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