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Postby GG » Tue Jan 02, 2007 1:59 pm

He is definitely alive, he must be, I got an SMS text message from him yesterday.

SORRY I COULDNT MAKE YOUR PARTY LASTNIGHT.
I'M STILL A BIT HUNG OVER FROM SATURDAY.
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Postby G.Man » Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:10 pm

GorillaGal wrote:
pitsilos wrote:if you were to describe a yank, dumb ass would probably be the words of choice. and starts from the top. look at bush and go figure as to who voted for him. simple, dumb asses. :lol:


now that is an isult to me, pitsilos. MOST americans did not vote for bush. the mafority of people here voted for someone else, both times.

as for you Snad--you don't have to believe that the USA was a major cause of ending and "winning" the war, i just have 2 words for you: hiroshima and nagasaki.


They didnt end the war, they just took Japan out of the war... Hiroshima and Nagasaki had no impact on the war in Europe... That ended in may 1945, and the bombs didnt drop until August 1945....

However, we cannot underestimate the contribution of the US in the 2nd world war... They sent us pilots, and supplies long before they got involved... They didnt win the war, they did help... a lot...

HOWEVER

I now think that after being late for 2 world wars, they are now trying to make sure they are right there for the start of the 3rd

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Postby GorillaGal » Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:43 pm

i never said i was proud of it Snad. but it is over and done with, it is history, and it DID end the war,whether you want to believe that or not.
but with all the anti american sentiment on this board, it seems as though many of you are ready to condemn the USA for dropping the bombs in WW2, and the same people seem happy we got attacked on 9-11.
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Postby G.Man » Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:13 pm

The bombs ended the last of the war, the war with Japan... Japan entered the war by attacking the US at pearl harbour, after they (the US) sanctioned them for attacking China and supplied China with arms and resources... Ironic really.. The US may wish to bear that in mind now they are sanctioning countries in the ME at will because they dont share their view on Israel and sales of Oil in Euro's...

Nobody is happy that the US was attacked, except maybe a few p'd off people in the ME, however, the US funded terrorism in the UK and supplied the IRA with funds and arms for years, now they have an attack on home soil, all of a sudden they start a war on terrorism and funding of terrorism..

Many people in the UK think, yeah, how does it feel now you are on the receiving end, but NOBODY supports the attacks or is happy about them...

Its the old adage really, "what goes around, comes around"....

Gorilla Gal, are you a cypriot? Do you support the US's involvement in the Cyprus conflict? Do you back them pushing the UK to back Turkey's EU bid for their benefit?

I really urge you to investigate more about your country of choice's involvement in world wide politics before you blindly defend them...

But I do support your support of Al Gore (if thats who you said you voted for) because he really would have made a difference in the US imho... Bush does the US no favours whatsoever... But I will add, that pretty much every american I have met is a top person and feels the same about Bush as we (you and I) do...

I am not anti american, but I am definitely anti-US worldwide policy... Sometimes its hard see that in peoples posting style, but I think, most would say they judge individuals, and sadly, the US is represented by a moron (2 if you include condoleeza)...

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Postby THE HIGHLANDER » Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:23 pm

Come on now G.G settle down now..........
The G.MAN'S right these two bombs were dropped a good three months after WW2 had ended. What does piss me off is some of the coments refering to England during the war as if it was all about England,we are talking British here,the war included to name but a few Scottish,Welsh,Irish,Austrialian,Canadian,(French?) we'll leave that one for the dury to decide forces etc.
Perhaps thats why most of the high ranking posts of our Special Forces i.e The Royal Marines,SBS,PARAS and the SAS are held by Scotsmen.
And most of the highest ranking officers of NEW SCOTLAND YARD police force are again held by Scotsmen.
And i wonder why was the English police headquarters was named NEW SCOTLAND YARD ?
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Postby Snad » Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:49 pm

OMG Highlander
It bad enough defending ourselves against the Americans, please lets not start a intercountry war :shock: We are all British remember and I know you are Scottish, but whether you like it or not are still part of the British Isles :wink:

I did say earlier to Miltiades that my father fought for Britain, not England.
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Postby GorillaGal » Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:52 pm

i give up. all hail to the powerful and far superior cypriots.
they are so much better than any of us americans could ever be.
maybe i will go kill myself, because the world doees not need another american idiot.
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Postby Snad » Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:00 pm

Wouldn't go as far as that GG :shock:

You would feel better, I'm sure, if you got rid of that bl**dy annoying monkey!!
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Postby RichardB » Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:04 pm

Hey GG in the words of Green Day

I've just realised what this thread is about

"American Idiot"

Don't want to be an American idiot.
Don't want a nation under the new media
And can you hear the sound of hysteria?
The subliminal mind fuck America.

Welcome to a new kind of tension.
All across the alien nation.
Where everything isn't meant to be okay.
Television dreams of tomorrow.
We're not the ones who're meant to follow.
For that's enough to argue.

Well maybe I'm the faggot America.
I'm not a part of a redneck agenda.
Now everybody do the propaganda.
And sing along to the age of paranoia.

Welcome to a new kind of tension.
All across the alien nation.
Where everything isn't meant to be okay.
Television dreams of tomorrow.
We're not the ones who're meant to follow.
For that's enough to argue.

Don't want to be an American idiot.
One nation controlled by the media.
Information age of hysteria.
It's calling out to idiot America.

Welcome to a new kind of tension.
All across the alien nation.
Where everything isn't meant to be okay.
Television dreams of tomorrow.
We're not the ones who're meant to follow.
For that's enough to argue.
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Postby G.Man » Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:48 pm

THE HIGHLANDER wrote:And most of the highest ranking officers of NEW SCOTLAND YARD police force are again held by Scotsmen.
And i wonder why was the English police headquarters was named NEW SCOTLAND YARD ?


New Scotland Yard got its name as the Original Met HQ was in a street named Great Scotland Yard off Whitehall, and the HQ aquired the nickname scotland yeard... when they moved the HQ they decided to keep the nickname...

Scotland Yard became a name synonymous with policing and a series of detective stories, best known for introducing the name Sherlock Holmes to the world..

As for why the top ranking officers are scottish, perhaps it was because they were the best for the job... scary, but probably true

:D

I agree with all your comments about nationality, I regard myself as British, and support Wales, Scotland etc etc whenever my local team arent playing them... sadly, its fashionable if you are scottish or welsh to support the OPPOSING team when england are playing....

Sad really...

GG. I think you are over reacting slightly, we arent trashing your country, just your current govt policies. I am in no doubt that Britain and Europe could have had a much tougher time if the US hadnt been involved... Had Hitler not been so stupid as to attack russia as well, then the outcome may have been far worse even with the US support...

How many people are aware of the fact that Russia lost more lives than almost every other country put togther in WW2... The biggest Holocaust was in Russia not amongst European Jews! 23.2 million Russian Deaths!!!!

Russians account for 64% of all military deaths in WW2, UK and US combined, total 4%

If it wasnt for Russia, the allies would have lost WW2....

Highlander

German forces in Berlin surrendered the city to Soviet troops on May 2, 1945.


On August 6, 1945, a B-29 Superfortress, the Enola Gay, dropped a nuclear weapon dubbed Little Boy on Hiroshima, destroying the city. On August 9, a B-29 named Bockscar dropped the second atomic bomb, dubbed Fat Man, on the port city of Nagasaki. On August 8, two days after the atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, the Soviet Union, having renounced its nonaggression pact with Japan, attacked the Japanese in Manchuria, fulfilling its Yalta pledge to attack the Japanese within three months after the end of the war in Europe. The attack was made by three Soviet army groups. In less than two weeks, the Japanese army in Manchuria, consisting of over a million men, had been destroyed by the Soviets. The Red Army moved into North Korea on August 18. Korea was subsequently divided at the 38th parallel into Soviet and U.S. zones. The American use of atomic weapons against Japan and the Soviet invasion of Manchukuo prompted Hirohito to bypass the existing government and intervene to end the war. In his radio address to the nation, the Emperor did not mention the entry of the Soviet Union into the war, but in his "Rescript to the soldiers and sailors" of August 17, ordering them to cease fire and lay down arms, he stressed the relationship between Soviet entrance into the war and his decision to surrender, omitting any mention of the atomic bombs.


Kinda puts a different slant on everyones opinion that the US ended the war with the bombings doesnt it... However, you have to admit, that had they finished the nukes earlier, it could have brought about a speedier end...

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