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Bulgaria and Romania join the EU. Good for Cyprus?

Benefits and problems from the EU membership.

Postby Kikapu » Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:42 pm

THE HIGHLANDER wrote:Hi kikapu,
your right,yes there is little or nothing we can do as citizens,to stop the influx of these people,other than what im doing,and that is to get the f*ck out of Britain,and let the British government play Santa Claus to imigrants at the expence of its own people !!!!!!!!!........sad....sad....day


Well, if you think by going to Cyprus, you're going to get away from those problems that is now happening in the UK, you may be mistaken. Cyprus being in the EU now, will face the same problems sooner rather than later. Perhaps even more so, because of the weather is so much nicer. If one becomes homeless, they will not die from the cold.!!

If you really want to get away from it all, buy yourself a sail boat, take your 20 year old girlfriend with you, and set sail to different destinations. When you don't like your neighbours any longer, just sail to another location.
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Postby THE HIGHLANDER » Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:31 pm

KIKAPU HELLO AGAIN,
Kikapu your spot on again,but the difference is Cypus has woken up to the problem not like Britain and is facing it head on e.g just today Bulgarian and Romainian refuges as i like to call them,now face sanctions implimented to stop their influx into Cyprus,and yes Cyprus does have the weather but i still strongly believe it is safer for me to lay down the tracks for my future in Cyprus with the right investments. P.S the birds now 22 not 20 your making me sound like a cradle snatcher, and she hates sailing !!!!!!!
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:55 pm

THE HIGHLANDER wrote: P.S the birds now 22 not 20 your making me sound like a cradle snatcher!!!!!!!


Girlfriend at age 20, would make you a "cradle snatcher".

Girlfriend at age 22, would still make you a "cradle snatcher". :lol: :lol:
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Postby simonwjones » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:35 am

Kikapu wrote:
THE HIGHLANDER wrote: P.S the birds now 22 not 20 your making me sound like a cradle snatcher!!!!!!!


Girlfriend at age 20, would make you a "cradle snatcher".

Girlfriend at age 22, would still make you a "cradle snatcher". :lol: :lol:


Either, would make you a lucky git :wink:
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Postby Sotos » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:38 am

I think the problem with immigrants can be controlled if they put minimum wages that are strictly enforced and if to enter any profession you have to pass some exams to show that you are qualified for the job. This way immigrants will continue to come but it will be those with good qualifications and not those that are willing to work for nothing!
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Postby EUropean666 » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:00 am

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EUropean666 wrote:yes....bulgaria...what a country...12 years old kids working for 2-3 dollars per day. no unions, no labour law....that is the capitalists paradise.

that may be what you do to poor immigrant kids in Cyprus, but there are laws in Bulgaria protecting minors from exploitation. In fact recently lawsuits have been filed against firms from Greece, many of which operate sweatshops in the country, exploiting mostly poor people from the Gypsy community.


i am well aware of this problem. however low wages are a problem for north greece. when in greece the cheapest labour costs 800 euro, and the average 1500 including taxes and insurance, while in bulgaria labour costs 200 euro, then there is a problem for greece and other EU member states who will see their primary businesses moving to bulgaria and romania in search of cheap labour.

Bulgaria should first increase its minimum wages and improve labour legislation and then to apply for EU. however this was a choice of multinational firms and from pressure deriving from usa bcoz bulgaria and romania sent army to occupy iraq
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:35 am

Sotos wrote:I think the problem with immigrants can be controlled if they put minimum wages that are strictly enforced !


If you set a minimum wage in Cyprus, which I presume will be higher than what is being paid at the moment, to lower end of wage earners, will have 2 effects.

1. It will invite more Cypriots to do the jobs, rather than immigrants.

2. It will attract more immigrants to Cyprus, because even the minimum wage will be much higher than what they would be getting in their own country, for those coming from Eastern Europe.

I would say, set a liveable minimum wage to make it attractive for the Cypriots from all over the island to work , and only invite others to come from outside, to take up all the surplus jobs, on a 1-5 years job permit bases. If the economy turns "South", then you can tell your immigrants to go back to their country, including EU members. Cyprus needs to set limits. A small island cannot absorbe so many people, that it will not be able to support all. This is one of the downfalls in joining the EU. You just can't have the "flood gates"left open at all times. They need to be controlled, or else, it will "drown" the island.
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Postby raymanuva » Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:29 pm

Borat's village was filmed in Romania... way to go EU! :D
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Postby TheEasterner » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:02 am

humanist wrote:NO NO NO , we have Romanians living in our home and are refusding to live. Going through courts now.


Oh, ya? Of course, the poor Romanians are refusing to 'live'.They are refusing to 'die', also :lol:

First, a small English lesson coming from a Romanian.It will be useful in the 'courts'.

'refusding to live'.
'live' comes from life..and is 'opposite' to die.You wanted to say:
"refusing to leave".

I suppose the Romanians didn't land in your house from outerspace..

You did an initial agreement with them and of course you broke it like many other landlords...
Maybe something with the rent paid in advance..and after they paid your rent in advance you find in your old supra-evaluated apartament something broken (which was anyway old) and put them to pay extra (is very common here - at least for me and other friends happened ).They didn't want to give the money and you wanted to throw them away, but they payed in advance..So, how to 'live'? :shock: :cry:

Am I right?

And please try to write in English so we can understand each other inside EU.

Thanks,
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Postby growuptcs » Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:16 am

Your right TheEasterner(Dracula), its just that it is rude to go on about someones misspelling when you got the point.
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