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[humanist]

I agree andri, it is perhaps on the fact that there is no obligation to to the other parent, or perhaps that there are clearer boundaries and responsibilities. In most cases gay fathers and in most cases lesbian mothers tend to also live in separate dwellings so this makes it less likely for violence, though gay relationships have been known to perpetrate violence also.

[zan]

I cannot understand what is so unnatural about a gay man rearing a child that he may have fathered to a lesbian or a straight woman who was in her 40's and not married.

Piratis I also do not understand what you mean by "that kind" of environment. I assure you that I am well respected social worker, own my home, I have the support of my parents, I do not use drugs and may have alcohol on very rare occasions, I socalise with teachers, lawyers, yoga teachers and artists. I do not have criminal record and I care for humanity as much as I do for the environment. I am not violent and yes I go to church evry now and then as I am more of a Bahai in my fath than anything else.

So please tell me what "that kind" of environment I am living in that t would not be condusive to raising a child.

You sound as boring as me I even write poetry

[Piratis]

Here we go again:

Piratis says

I just say that gays having children is not something natural.

Inference: If it is not natural it is no good.

Point made: Please stop this absurdity. Just because something is not natural it does not mean that it is not good. This line of thought has created monsters and dictarors and misanthropists and basically all the scum of the earth.

You need to have a good reason for going against nature. And even in that case doing so should be done in a very careful way. Even medicine that can cure deceases pass from several levels of testing before they are given to people.

Those that go right away to test their ideas on humans without regard to human life are usually the dictators. Hitler and Stalin did that.

In the case of gay parents I: 1) Don't see a good enough reason for going against nature and 2) You can not use children as guinea pigs. You might believe gay parents can be fine, but your belief is a blind one. You didn't even answer to the issues I posted. You can't use children as guinea pigs to prove it, and maybe/probably be responsible for damaging the lives of many people in the process.

A same thing could be said about cloning. But at least you can make experiments with mice about that until you are absolutely sure the risk is minimal. Would you agree to go directly on human cloning just to satisfy some people that want to be parents?

[zan]

Here we go again:

Piratis says

I just say that gays having children is not something natural.

Inference: If it is not natural it is no good.

Point made: Please stop this absurdity. Just because something is not natural it does not mean that it is not good. This line of thought has created monsters and dictarors and misanthropists and basically all the scum of the earth.

You need to have a good reason for going against nature. And even in that case doing so should be done in a very careful way. Even medicine that can cure deceases pass from several levels of testing before they are given to people.

Those that go right away to test their ideas on humans without regard to human life are usually the dictators. Hitler and Stalin did that.

In the case of gay parents I: 1) Don't see a good enough reason for going against nature and 2) You can not use children as guinea pigs. You might believe gay parents can be fine, but your belief is a blind one. You didn't even answer to the issues I posted. You can't use children as guinea pigs to prove it, and maybe/probably be responsible for damaging the lives of many people in the process.

A same thing could be said about cloning. But at least you can make experiments with mice about that until you are absolutely sure the risk is minimal. Would you agree to go directly on human cloning just to satisfy some people that want to be parents?

What is unnatural about parenting????????????????????????????????????????

[humanist]

Well Zan my friend, I think that just goes to prove that we are all one and this squabling is benefiting no one, least of all us, all of us human beings.

I really enjoy hiking and being in nature and I have just started painting also. I go out dancing quite often and try to be expressive of my spirit and my soul. The rest of the ime I meditate and work.

Gwad I'm boring I love my boringness.

[Sotos]

gay parents? What will it be next? Chimpanzee school bus drivers?

[zan]

Well Zan my friend, I think that just goes to prove that we are all one and this squabling is benefiting no one, least of all us, all of us human beings.

I really enjoy hiking and being in nature and I have just started painting also. I go out dancing quite often and try to be expressive of my spirit and my soul. The rest of the ime I meditate and work.

Gwad I'm boring I love my boringness.

Me too!


Sotos
Have you seen what those chimps get up to? I would not want them any where near my children

[humanist]

Bus drivers, do already attend chipanzie school, have you seen the way some drive.

[rulla]

what do you call a gay with a prick an asshole

[humanist]

Piratis, I am not sure what you mean defying nature I proposed a scenario of a gya man and a heterosexual woman of the gae of 40 not in a relationship , but like you and many others would like to be a mother. So they have a baby together, check ups every month at the doctors and a natural birth follows.

The father has an active role in caring for his child both financially and emotionaly. He takes the child to school, prepares lunches takes child to church, goes on picnics with his child and his child's mother, they may even go to the movies together, Unnatural?

Guinea Pigs ....... not sure how a heterosexual man's need, desire, want is considered natural but gay man's is not. If I decide to have a child, and when the right woman comes on the scene I will, it is because I appreciate what I am experiencing (minus your bigotry) in my life and would love to give the opportunity for another human being to experince this beautiful world that I am living in.. It is interesting even trying to learn what motivates you to judge me and declare a part of me false, I find that extremely fascinating. Homsexuality my friend is not a sexual experience alone, it is an emotional response to another person of the same sex.

Now for the big bang ... I hate to break your delussions that all gay men out there wanna fuck with every walking human being. Personally I'd rather go celibate than ever consider having sex with any male bigot or George Bush even if you were both the last men on the planet.