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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:53 pm Reply with quote
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There are no homosexuals in Iran. There just aren't ... according to President Ahmadinejad.
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Okay, I was being provocative. Truth is President Ahmadinejad said, "In Iran, we don't have homosexuality like you do in the United States." What do you think he meant by this? Smile
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:20 pm Reply with quote
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Filitsa wrote:
What do you think he meant by this? Smile

That depends on what you’re looking for.
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Here are a couple of links to commentaries about this :

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/danny_postel/2007/09/remember_our_real_iranian_frie.html

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/brian_whitaker/2007/09/no_homosexuality_here.html


Not only is sexuality is a human right, differences in sexuality are continually changing in human society. Ahmadinejad is in denial about both of these matters. His agenda is both to terrorise and discipline sexuality and sexual expression in Iran and to reassert Iran's successful resistance against the alleged depravity and degeneracy of the West where 'sexual perversions' are encouraged and tolerated (he would have us believe). Meanwhile his regime is beating and torturing those who express any kind of dissent, whether this be sexual, political, labour, cultural or religious.

Anybody bothered by human rights abuse in Iran might start by lending their support to the freeing of Mahmoud Salehi, leader of the Bakery Workers' Union in Iran, see http://www.labourstart.org/cgi-bin/solidarityforever/show_campaign.cgi?c=231
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Get Real! wrote:
Filitsa wrote:
What do you think he meant by this? Smile

That depends on what you’re looking for.


How does this answer my question, Get Real!? Seems you're always looking for hidden agendas. Smile Sorry to disappoint you, but none here. So tell me, how do you interpret President Ahmadinejad's comment?

CopperLine wrote:
Here are a couple of links to commentaries about this :

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/danny_postel/2007/09/remember_our_real_iranian_frie.html

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/brian_whitaker/2007/09/no_homosexuality_here.html


Not only is sexuality is a human right, differences in sexuality are continually changing in human society. Ahmadinejad is in denial about both of these matters. His agenda is both to terrorise and discipline sexuality and sexual expression in Iran and to reassert Iran's successful resistance against the alleged depravity and degeneracy of the West where 'sexual perversions' are encouraged and tolerated (he would have us believe). Meanwhile his regime is beating and torturing those who express any kind of dissent, whether this be sexual, political, labour, cultural or religious.

Anybody bothered by human rights abuse in Iran might start by lending their support to the freeing of Mahmoud Salehi, leader of the Bakery


Thank you, CopperLine. By the way, your nick brings to mind a James Taylor favorite of mine by the same name. I don't suppose you're familiar with James Taylor?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:26 pm Reply with quote
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CopperLine wrote:
Anybody bothered by human rights abuse in Iran might start by lending their support to the freeing of Mahmoud Salehi, leader of the Bakery Workers' Union in Iran

That's a pretty feeble human rights "campaign" you're embarking on here CopperLine while the US abducts, imprisons, and tortures hundreds of innocent people in Guantanamo. I don't know how that escaped you...

http://web.amnesty.org/pages/guantanamobay-index-eng
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:20 pm Reply with quote
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Get Real! wrote:
CopperLine wrote:
Anybody bothered by human rights abuse in Iran might start by lending their support to the freeing of Mahmoud Salehi, leader of the Bakery Workers' Union in Iran

That's a pretty feeble human rights "campaign" you're embarking on here CopperLine while the US abducts, imprisons, and tortures hundreds of innocent people in Guantanamo. I don't know how that escaped you...

http://web.amnesty.org/pages/guantanamobay-index-eng


It always seems that 'numbers' of victims are used as an argument regarding which cases are more horrific or inhuman. Not the case, any inhumanity or injustice is wrong. Numbers do not make it more or less important morally.
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Get Real,
The use of the death penalty in the US is a repeated and persistent human rights abuse. I campaign against that, I'd encourage you to do so as well. The US' use of 'extraordinary rendition' and the black hole of Guantanamo is a massive human rights abuse which is a stinking stain on the 'land of freedom'. I campaign for the closure of Guantanamo and against extraordinary rendition, I encourage you to do so as well. (Guantanamo "hadn't escaped" me as you put it. I was responding to the thread's subject of Iran and the abuse of gays in Iran. As it happens I have been actively involved in campaigns demanding the closure of Guantanamo since the day the then Camp X-Ray opened). That the US commits these horrors and more - invasions and coup d'etats included - and all of which demands our opposition and objections does not diminish the fact that the Ahmadinejad regime (and many others) are subjecting various peoples and groups to brutal repression. I campaign against that, I encourage you to do so also.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:03 pm Reply with quote
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CopperLine wrote:
Get Real,
The use of the death penalty in the US is a repeated and persistent human rights abuse. I campaign against that, I'd encourage you to do so as well. The US' use of 'extraordinary rendition' and the black hole of Guantanamo is a massive human rights abuse which is a stinking stain on the 'land of freedom'. I campaign for the closure of Guantanamo and against extraordinary rendition, I encourage you to do so as well. (Guantanamo "hadn't escaped" me as you put it. I was responding to the thread's subject of Iran and the abuse of gays in Iran. As it happens I have been actively involved in campaigns demanding the closure of Guantanamo since the day the then Camp X-Ray opened). That the US commits these horrors and more - invasions and coup d'etats included - and all of which demands our opposition and objections does not diminish the fact that the Ahmadinejad regime (and many others) are subjecting various peoples and groups to brutal repression. I campaign against that, I encourage you to do so also.


Good for you CopperLine on all your efforts to bring an end to injustices the Bush Administration has brought upon others as well as on their own Constitution.


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Get Real! wrote:
CopperLine wrote:
Anybody bothered by human rights abuse in Iran might start by lending their support to the freeing of Mahmoud Salehi, leader of the Bakery Workers' Union in Iran

That's a pretty feeble human rights "campaign" you're embarking on here CopperLine while the US abducts, imprisons, and tortures hundreds of innocent people in Guantanamo. I don't know how that escaped you...

http://web.amnesty.org/pages/guantanamobay-index-eng


Here you go again !! Those imprisoned are the sworn enemies of the civilized world as we know it , I most certainly feel safer that these evil people are incarcerated and long may the continue to rot . I have no sympathy for those who are driven by a warp interpretation of their duty to God and are ready to spread death and destruction indiscriminately and in a premeditated fashion.
As for the Iranian leader's comments on Iran not having homosexuals , of course he is correct .They kill them off along with barbers and raped victims , they usually stone them to death.
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