Let us turn Ledras Street into a Peace Avenue
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| Define centre (never mind the dead part). Is it the same centre that voted for Klerides in 1993 in order to get rid of Vasiliou? Anyway, I put it to you that the extreme right voted for Papadopoulos and, in case you are interested, those that deny solution are part of the extreme right. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:06 pm |
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| GR, I can call you a lot of things, but 'moderate' would not be one of them. You have your fixed 'red lines', not allowing for any flexibility. I have personal experience of THAT... |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:46 pm |
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| Get Real! |
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| Bananiot wrote: |
| Define centre (never mind the dead part). Is it the same centre that voted for Klerides in 1993 in order to get rid of Vasiliou? Anyway, I put it to you that the extreme right voted for Papadopoulos and, |
How easily you forget the masked men outside of the DYSI party premises shouting Greek nationalist slogans at the presidential election the other day, broadcasted live on TV. Those people WERE "Chrysi Avgi" members and they were nowhere near Chritofias or Papadopoulos.
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| ...in case you are interested, those that deny solution are part of the extreme right. |
I don't think you'll find anyone who doesn't want a "solution" but you'll find many interpretations for this magical 8-letter word.
My “solution” doesn’t involve appeasing the enemy, trampling all over the human rights of our citizens with undemocratic disproportionate rulings, or accommodating foreign powers. I understand my stance irritates many but such is life... to each his own interests. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:52 pm |
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| Expatkiwi wrote: |
| GR, I can call you a lot of things, but 'moderate' would not be one of them. You have your fixed 'red lines', not allowing for any flexibility. I have personal experience of THAT... |
I can't afford to be moderate when 37% of my country is under occupation, around 20% of its citizens are Turkish Nationalists, around 60% are Greek Nationalists, and there's like a handful of us fighting for Cypriot Nationalism when we ALL should. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:59 pm |
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| Get Real! wrote: |
| Expatkiwi wrote: |
| GR, I can call you a lot of things, but 'moderate' would not be one of them. You have your fixed 'red lines', not allowing for any flexibility. I have personal experience of THAT... |
I can't afford to be moderate when 37% of my country is under occupation, around 20% of its citizens are Turkish Nationalists, around 60% are Greek Nationalists, and there's like a handful of us fighting for Cypriot Nationalism when we ALL should. |
How did you work that one out??? |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:17 am |
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| iceman wrote: |
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| Expatkiwi wrote: |
| GR, I can call you a lot of things, but 'moderate' would not be one of them. You have your fixed 'red lines', not allowing for any flexibility. I have personal experience of THAT... |
I can't afford to be moderate when 37% of my country is under occupation, around 20% of its citizens are Turkish Nationalists, around 60% are Greek Nationalists, and there's like a handful of us fighting for Cypriot Nationalism when we ALL should. |
How did you work that one out??? |
Because dear Iceman, even the "moderate" Turkish Cypriots like yourself cannot bring themselves round to admit that there's a HUGE 80/20 ratio discrepancy that cannot be ignored, yet none of you ever stand up to your leaders and say…
“Let’s cut the crap and stop insisting with this 50/50 ‘power sharing’ undemocratic nonsense, an imbalance that led us to trouble in the first place, and ask what the RoC can do for us to accommodate our people in need for a better future as Cypriots together…”
Start talking like that and you’ll see the VERY generous and affectionate side of Greek Cypriots like myself and many others. You will NOT lose… |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:22 am |
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Are you asking me to give up my 1960 constitutional rights again?
Or does refusing to do so make me a Turkish Nationalist? |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:29 am |
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| iceman wrote: |
Are you asking me to give up my 1960 constitutional rights again?
Or does refusing to do so make me a Turkish Nationalist? |
I am asking you to embrace DEMOCRACY and the guidance of the EU, as THE SOLUTION and not some bizarre political arrangement by foreign powers that is bound to have the same tragic results as the London/Zurich agreements.
I regard any deviation from democracy to be anti-social and thus anti-Cypriot. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:38 am |
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| Get Real! wrote: |
| iceman wrote: |
Are you asking me to give up my 1960 constitutional rights again?
Or does refusing to do so make me a Turkish Nationalist? |
I am asking you to embrace DEMOCRACY and the guidance of the EU, as THE SOLUTION and not some bizarre political arrangement by foreign powers that is bound to have the same tragic results as the London/Zurich agreements.
I regard any deviation from democracy to be anti-social and thus anti-Cypriot. |
your sense of DEMOCRACY hasn't done any good to my people in the past.....
not sure i like that..............................................again. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:52 am |
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| iceman wrote: |
| Get Real! wrote: |
| iceman wrote: |
Are you asking me to give up my 1960 constitutional rights again?
Or does refusing to do so make me a Turkish Nationalist? |
I am asking you to embrace DEMOCRACY and the guidance of the EU, as THE SOLUTION and not some bizarre political arrangement by foreign powers that is bound to have the same tragic results as the London/Zurich agreements.
I regard any deviation from democracy to be anti-social and thus anti-Cypriot. |
your sense of DEMOCRACY hasn't done any good to my people in the past.....
not sure i like that..............................................again. |
Cyprus DID NOT have democracy in the past and that's why it didn't work and I challenge anyone to prove that we did. |
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