Property Protest London during President Christofias’ visit
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| miltiades |
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| roseandchan wrote: |
| so in the south you have property problems to! not just us in the north then, as most of you like to tell the world. now everyone knows south Cyprus is not safe to buy property in. |
The huge difference in buying land and property in the ROC is that the law demands that the seller must be the legal owner with legal deeds in possession and that the buyer on exchanging contracts and fully paying for the land or property receives title of land or property and the legal deeds that the entire world , including the Banking world most importantly , recognises as proper evidence of a legal acquisition of land or property.
The same can not be said when buying property / land that does not have the same credentials and does not withstand the legal tests of a bona fide transaction.
What can be compared is the existence of unscrupulous sellers and developers , one MIGHT be selling or developing property or land belonging to him while the other MUST
LEGALLY be selling , developing land belonging to him.
If during the execution of the sale or development the seller or developer defaults then such act is illegal and can be challenged in the ROC courts. Not so in the "TRNC" which sanctions the sale of G/C properties.
That is the huge difference . |
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:58 am |
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| di-di |
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Hello gents.
Gosh please stop throwing the teddies out the pram!!
If you read my postings they are indeed in answer to your scurrilous accusations aimed at me.
I don't and never have lived in gated communities with an entry card and no i do not sit drinking brandy sours, can't stand them and do not drink much anyway. Please stop putting the ex-Pats into one basket. Not all Cypriots are the same and neither are we.
As for my informing you of my attempts to learn the language of the land that was in answer to the comment made that "we" make no attempts to learn the language. I beg very strongly to differ on that one.
Why are you so hostile? All we want to do is fit in and learn and enjoy the Cypriot life.
This was a thread about Conor and his plight, which i attempted to put the record straight and at the same time highlighting our own plight. It seems that yet again we are not allowed to view Cyprus in anything other than rose coloured specs! Cyprus is not perfect, the UK is far from perfect and that is a fact.
Please read and try to understand the written word or would you like me to translate????
Best wishes
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:41 am |
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| halil |
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:41 am |
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| purdey |
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I think you will find living in Cyprus is far removed from the banter on forum. I have never had any major problem in Cyprus, be it on the roads with property or the Cypriot people.
Forum is for in some cases letting off steam and in other cases stirring the pot, but generally it is quiet informative and genrally good humoured. |
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:46 am |
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| Conor |
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In answer to a lot of yesterdays point - It all boils down to the law.
I love Cyprus (that’s why I chose to raise my family there) but waited till she was an EU member.
"Buying something I couldn't see, from someone I didn't know" is called CONTRACT law and it’s what makes the world go round and puts the coffee in your cup. Contract law should be respected.
I know the President may have a few things on his agenda. But while you are talking about 1974 - My development - the one where I’m beaten for just stepping on to, is call “Ayios Sergios”
This is a quote from Karayiannas website:-
“Christoforos Karayiannas & Son Ltd was established in 1989 and is the foremost Developer & Construction Company in the area. Christoforos Karayiannas is a refugee from Ayios Sergios next to Salamis in the now occupied area in Northern Cyprus. After being sent away from his home with his family in 1974, he has since built his company with his bare hands from scratch to what it is today”
Isn’t it funny how history repeats itself?
I remember sympathising with Karayiannas over what happened to his family while their staff bounced my children on their knee. Now he does the same to my family.
What do you think?
Good Greek Cypriot.
Bad Greek Cypriot.
Or just a “clever, hardworking and shrewd” business man.
I don’t actually expect President Christofias himself to go to the lands registry see my contract and drag my developer and his lawyer off to jail. (Although that would be nice)
I THINK there is a system in place to do this. Unfortunately in my case and in so many others the system is corrupt at LOCAL level.
My “right to proper administration” is stated in the EU constitution. If the corrupt officials aren’t exposed in Cyprus and made to pay for their activities, eventually the taxpayer will have to compensate. I’m not letting go - welcome to the EU.
Back on subject:
If you know anyone who is disgruntled at not having his title deeds yet – get his offspring in the UK to contact me and stand shoulder to shoulder Sunday week.
Regards
Conor. |
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:48 pm |
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Conor ... don't forget to inform the correct authorities and obtain the necessary permits for expressing your right to Freedom of speech; lest you raise a rabble of more than 5 people! 
..... Boris is very keen to keep order!  |
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:44 pm |
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| Oracle wrote: |
Conor ... don't forget to inform the correct authorities and obtain the necessary permits for expressing your right to Freedom of speech; lest you raise a rabble of more than 5 people!
..... Boris is very keen to keep order! |
I compliment you “Oracle”
you are clueless on a “wide” range of subjects.
You are an embarrassment to whatever nationality you belong to. |
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Last edited by Conor on Thu May 08, 2008 1:56 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:52 pm |
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| purdey |
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I would not worry too much about Boris, Conor. Apparently he has entered the wrong offices of his new post on two occassions now.
He maybe a likeable intelligent chap but he has the common sense of a dead fish. |
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:07 pm |
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| Conor |
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| Oracle wrote: |
Listen Pleb ... get your (second?) house in order using lawyers and leave my President alone to sort out the Turks that are keeping 200,000 GCs from their rightful homes through no fault of their own ....
Perspective man! 
Next time you want to build ... do it right ...
Builders are bad enough ... but mix them with uneducated "property-magnates" ... and the results are nothing short of ugly ...
Really some people should be banned from property ownership for all our sakes ... |
The only thing you know about property problems Oracle is when YOUR house gets a flat tyre. |
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:11 pm |
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| denizaksulu |
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| Oracle wrote: |
Conor ... don't forget to inform the correct authorities and obtain the necessary permits for expressing your right to Freedom of speech; lest you raise a rabble of more than 5 people!
..... Boris is very keen to keep order! |
Boris Bey to you Oracle |
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