No News Not Necessarily Good News.
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Have you noticed that recently there has been a distinct shortage of news coverage from Iraq ?.
I think the idea is to create the impression that there is peace and stability in that beseiged land, a well practised ploy by our leaders (who like to keep us in the dark as far as TRUTH is concerned) whilst they are now probably feverishly negotiating with the 'alleged' enemies of freedom in an effort to extricate themselves from a hopeless situation.
No doubt we will soon be hearing of how successful the various measures taken by the aggressors have been, let us not be fooled by such statements, rather, let us consider the plight of the millions of displaced and thousands of dead and dying as a result of the unlawful attack upon the innocents of that nation.
Let us also remember the thousands of dead and injured young men who were 'TRICKED' into engaging with the 'conjured up' enemies at the whim of their (proven to be untruthful) leaders.
How sad to see the mutilated bodies of babies, of young children, of old and young men and women, ALL victims of indiscriminate slaughter perpetrated by both sides of the conflict, the purpose of which will ultimately make not the slightest difference to either those who fight or those who are embroiled in the fighting.
WHO, among all members, whatever their religious beliefs, can justify what has and IS taking place in Iraq today?, whoever says they can should be ashamed to call themselves human.
I have seen it, I have shared the grief of many and I feel ashamed, how about you?.  |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:53 pm |
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| Eliko wrote: |
Have you noticed that recently there has been a distinct shortage of news coverage from Iraq ?.
I think the idea is to create the impression that there is peace and stability in that beseiged land, a well practised ploy by our leaders (who like to keep us in the dark as far as TRUTH is concerned) whilst they are now probably feverishly negotiating with the 'alleged' enemies of freedom in an effort to extricate themselves from a hopeless situation.
No doubt we will soon be hearing of how successful the various measures taken by the aggressors have been, let us not be fooled by such statements, rather, let us consider the plight of the millions of displaced and thousands of dead and dying as a result of the unlawful attack upon the innocents of that nation.
Let us also remember the thousands of dead and injured young men who were 'TRICKED' into engaging with the 'conjured up' enemies at the whim of their (proven to be untruthful) leaders.
How sad to see the mutilated bodies of babies, of young children, of old and young men and women, ALL victims of indiscriminate slaughter perpetrated by both sides of the conflict, the purpose of which will ultimately make not the slightest difference to either those who fight or those who are embroiled in the fighting.
WHO, among all members, whatever their religious beliefs, can justify what has and IS taking place in Iraq today?, whoever says they can should be ashamed to call themselves human.
I have seen it, I have shared the grief of many and I feel ashamed, how about you?. |
More likely is that they are covering up some more dastardly acts or co-lateral damage or friendly fire incidents.
A prayer for all the innocents of the world, esp the children. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:29 pm |
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The latest news is that the government (Iraq) is bring in new legislation to punish private (foreign) civilian security personell for violations after a private company opened fire on Iraqi's in the street and killed 11 for what they "suspected" was a threat to the convey of US officials they were protecting. (The killings happened in September). They aim to crack down on these contract "soldiers" and revoke licences where necessary.
At least 37 people have been killed in numerous car bombings and suicide bombings in the last 24 hours. God help them all.
And finally, yes, I am deeply ashamed about the West's involvement.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:30 pm |
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They're (US) just a little busier with Iran these days but there's still plenty of coverage... in the right places:
http://www.antiwar.com/ |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:22 pm |
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| Eliko wrote: |
Have you noticed that recently there has been a distinct shortage of news coverage from Iraq ?.
I think the idea is to create the impression that there is peace and stability in that beseiged land, a well practised ploy by our leaders (who like to keep us in the dark as far as TRUTH is concerned) whilst they are now probably feverishly negotiating with the 'alleged' enemies of freedom in an effort to extricate themselves from a hopeless situation.
No doubt we will soon be hearing of how successful the various measures taken by the aggressors have been, let us not be fooled by such statements, rather, let us consider the plight of the millions of displaced and thousands of dead and dying as a result of the unlawful attack upon the innocents of that nation.
I thought it might be worth a shot at reviving this post in the light of what is now happening in Palestine and elsewhere, particularly since today is a day of remembrance for the victims of the 'Holocaust'.
Strange how those who claim to have suffered most can inflict such pain and suffering on others, oppressing and starving innocent young children is not a pretty sight I assure you.
Let us also remember the thousands of dead and injured young men who were 'TRICKED' into engaging with the 'conjured up' enemies at the whim of their (proven to be untruthful) leaders.
How sad to see the mutilated bodies of babies, of young children, of old and young men and women, ALL victims of indiscriminate slaughter perpetrated by both sides of the conflict, the purpose of which will ultimately make not the slightest difference to either those who fight or those who are embroiled in the fighting.
WHO, among all members, whatever their religious beliefs, can justify what has and IS taking place in Iraq today?, whoever says they can should be ashamed to call themselves human.
I have seen it, I have shared the grief of many and I feel ashamed, how about you?. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:25 pm |
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I thought it might be worth a shot at reviving this post in the light of what is now happening in Palestine and elsewhere, particularly since today is a day of remembrance for the victims of the 'Holocaust'.
Strange how those who claim to have suffered most can inflict such pain and suffering on others, oppressing and starving innocent young children is not a pretty sight I assure you. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:50 pm |
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| Eliko wrote: |
I thought it might be worth a shot at reviving this post in the light of what is now happening in Palestine and elsewhere, particularly since today is a day of remembrance for the victims of the 'Holocaust'.
Strange how those who claim to have suffered most can inflict such pain and suffering on others, oppressing and starving innocent young children is not a pretty sight I assure you. |
Hi Eliko , I shall have a few words to say on the subject a little later.
In the meantime would you enlighten me as to the "excuse " the Israelis are using in blockading the Gaza strip , could it possibly have something to do with Hamas firing on Israel indiscriminately or is it just a lame excuse by a "bloodthirsty" Jews !
ps.Thanks for your wishes . |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:03 pm |
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As always there are two sides to a story , what is sad and tragic here is that 1000s and 1000s are suffering under inhumane conditios. Women , children the old and the sick , this is just one story :
Israel eases blockade on Gaza Strip
Limited supplies of fuel, medicine and food will be permitted as rocket attacks plummet.
By Rushdi abu Alouf and Richard Boudreaux, Special to The Times
January 22, 2008
GAZA CITY -- Israel agreed to allow limited supplies of fuel, medicine and food into the Gaza Strip today, easing a blockade that left large parts of the Palestinian territory without electricity and drew international protests.
The promise of relief also followed a sharp decline in the rocket attacks from Gaza that had prompted Israel to halt the shipments Thursday.
Residents of Gaza City spent a second night in cold, dark homes after the coastal enclave's only power plant shut down Sunday. The main hospital, down to its last two days of generator fuel, delayed nearly half the surgeries scheduled for Monday. Bakeries and gasoline stations closed.
The shipments authorized Monday by Defense Minister Ehud Barak include enough fuel to run the power plant for a week and the hospital generators for three days, as well as cooking gas and 50 truckloads of food and medicine.
Israeli officials said future shipments would depend on assessments of Gaza's humanitarian needs and on the number of rockets fired from Gaza. It is governed by the radical Islamic group Hamas, which advocates Israel's destruction.
"We hope Hamas has got the message," said Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Arye Mekel. "When they want to reduce the number of rockets, they can do it."
Israeli police said three homemade Kassam rockets and five mortar shells fell harmlessly in Israel's western Negev region on Monday, a significant drop from the 53 that had struck during the two previous days.
Hamas political leaders offered no explanation for the decline, a decision they said was made by the group's military wing. A Hamas spokesman, Sami abu Zuhri, said foreign pressure had prompted Israel to ease the blockade, "but this does not mean the end of the siege on Gaza."
Protests against the blockade came from the European Union, the United Nations, the Oxfam relief agency, the Arab League and Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. They criticized what they called Israel's "collective punishment" of Gaza's 1.5 million people.
Israel's highest officials defended the blockade.
Barak said Israel "must apply more and more pressure on Gaza" to enable Israeli border communities to "live in quiet."
"If this 'quiet' requires the other side to live in 'noise,' then there will be noise," Barak told a forum at a security conference in Israel. ". . . I care more about our quiet than about theirs."
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said he would not push Gazans into a humanitarian crisis but warned that they wouldn't live a "pleasant and comfortable life" if rockets kept coming.
"As far as I'm concerned," he told a group of legislators, "Gaza residents will walk, without gas for their cars, because they have a murderous, terrorist regime that doesn't let people in southern Israel live in peace."
Israel halted most commerce with Gaza last June after Hamas seized full control of the territory, expelling secular forces loyal to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, who is holding peace negotiations with Israel.
The pressure tightened in October when Israel began reducing shipments of fuel to the power plant, which provides electricity to most of Gaza City's 400,000 people and about one-third of the coastal strip.
Last week's blockade, provoked by a surge in rockets, caught Gaza with less than a week's supply of basic foods.
The blockade put Egypt in a bind. Hamas demanded that Mubarak open Egypt's border with Gaza to let in the supplies cut off by Israel. But Mubarak, worried about a possible spillover of Hamas-inspired militants into Egypt, has been cooperating with Israel and the United States by tightening the border to reduce the flow of weapons and money to the Hamas-led government.
There was no sign Monday of a change in that policy. Instead, Mubarak telephoned Olmert and "stressed the need to stop the Israeli aggression against the Palestinian people," according to Egypt's official Middle East News Agency.
Egypt reportedly sent as many as 300 extra police and security officers to its border with Gaza after Hamas militants threatened to break through the only crossing. Sixty empty fuel trucks lined the Gaza side as their drivers demanded to get through. Hundreds of Gazans, including doctors in white coats and ambulance drivers with their vehicles, staged a protest nearby. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:12 pm |
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miltiades, happy to find you back on the forum and sincerely hoping you are in good form.
As to your comments :- Regardless of whatever excuse the Jews are using to blockade the Gaza Strip, they are not entitled to take the action they have (attempted).
The duly elected government of that region has now acted in a fashion which will undoubtedly highlight the plight of an oppressed people.
The tactics of the Israeli's is a disgraceful example of just how inhuman they can be, all the more visible since today is a significant day of remembrance for them.
Before you rail me with points of justification for the evil intentions of the Israeli actions, PLEASE consider the fact that they are directed at the general population and NOT against a military force.
They tried that one recently and got their arses kicked. (in my humble opinion) 
I am off about some business now,look forward to further contact with you, meantime, Best Wishes.X |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:03 pm |
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| Hamas and its policy on Israel , ie to annihilate the state of Israel must surely be a major factor in the blockade of Gaza strip and the suffering of the Palestinian people. Their worst enemy has and always will the fanatics that have as their main agenda the destruction of Israel. Fanaticism is the main culprit and it is time that Hamas is put in its place by the Palestinian moderates. The state of Israel is not going to capitulate not now not ever. |
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