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efe wrote:do they cell cigarettes in cyprus. i no in north they do.

PS: as far as i remember, they sell british ones dont they?

Efe, as for your question, yes they do sell cigarettes in Cyprus. Judging by the numbers of young women I've seen puffing away , they sell quite a few! It's not just British cigarettes, they sell more brands than I've ever seen in a British tobacconists.

I think boulio was actually referring to something slightly more herbal than cigarettes.

I think he was suggesting you are smoking dope(hashish)

brother wrote:I think he was suggesting you are smoking dope(hashish)

Nice clarification brother, I thought I'd try the more subtle approach... still, this is a Cyprus forum, so may as well be blunt eh

cannedmoose wrote:Nice clarification brother, I thought I'd try the more subtle approach... still, this is a Cyprus forum, so may as well be blunt eh

Hey. In another topic, we have even decided that we should open north Cyprus into more drugs, casinos, gambling, prostetition, etc. etc.

From that topic you can guess how high can TCs in this forum can get.

Hi cannedmoose, I like your idea of having combined religious places where everyone can pray. And you are very right about Kykkos monastery. I personally like Macheiras a lot if you happen to be there when its open and you are allowed to enter the church. Even though I'm atheist I very much appreciated the athmosphere in there and to be honest that was the first and only place ever where I could imagine something about the relation religious people have to their god....

city wrote:Hi cannedmoose, I like your idea of having combined religious places where everyone can pray. And you are very right about Kykkos monastery. I personally like Macheiras a lot if you happen to be there when its open and you are allowed to enter the church. Even though I'm atheist I very much appreciated the athmosphere in there and to be honest that was the first and only place ever where I could imagine something about the relation religious people have to their god....

Yes, I feel the same way about Machairas Monastery ... that place (and the people there) has taught me a lot over the last few years ... sadly, the abbot died tragically in a helicopter accident a few months ago, but the brotherhood there has dealt with this blow courageously.

As for Hagia Sophia ... look, let me clarify my position: I'm not going to strap bombs around my waist if Hagia Sophia is not returned to the faith-community which originally built it, and which used it as the central gathering symbol of Christian civilization for 1000 years, but I don't have to like it either ...

I am not against efe's dream, all of us freely intermingling in Greece, Turkey and Cyprus, all of us being friends ... that is my dream also. But I suggest we edit out the part about "being able to freely visit the Hagia Sophia" (as tourists), because that's a bitter consolation at best.

By the way, I further believe that for the dream to come true, it is important to allow full religious freedom both in Turkey and in Greece. At the moment, Islam is subtly suppressed by the state in Greece (most ex-mosques in Thessaloniki are now shopping malls, it is next to impossible to get a building permit for a new mosque), and similarly Christianity is subtly suppressed by the state in Turkey (the patriarchate is not even allowed to have a Theological academy operating, and most Churches have been turned to all sorts of other uses).

Unless we get over such mentalities of subtle oppression and subtle discrimination, we will always have two ethnically pure states (i.e. Greece and Turkey) and the only people freely intermingling will be the businessmen and the tourists.

turkcyp wrote: From that topic you can guess how high can TCs in this forum can get.

I can see the smoke pouring over Pendedactylos as we speak...

Alexandros Lordos wrote: By the way, I further believe that for the dream to come true, it is important to allow full religious freedom both in Turkey and in Greece. At the moment, Islam is subtly suppressed by the state in Greece (most ex-mosques in Thessaloniki are now shopping malls, it is next to impossible to get a building permit for a new mosque), and similarly Christianity is subtly suppressed by the state in Turkey (the patriarchate is not even allowed to have a Theological academy operating, and most Churches have been turned to all sorts of other uses).

Unless we get over such mentalities of subtle oppression and subtle discrimination, we will always have two ethnically pure states (i.e. Greece and Turkey) and the only people freely intermingling will be the businessmen and the tourists.

Understood Alex and a good point well made. I too find it incredible that Greece, after 24 years of EU membership can still get away with the insidious suppression of Islam. The hope is that with the beefed-up EU conditionality as applied to Turkey's membership hopes, their suppression of Christian worship will at least be ended.

If you ask me organized religions have become the bain of humanity's existence.

On the other hand, it is important that we respect every human being's religion. I'm not sure that I mind if Ag. Sophia remains a museum as long as it is respected. For me Ag. Sophia represents the Byzantium, not Hellenism. It was during the BYanatium (Sp. the Emp. Theodosios) that the Olympics were halted and destroy numerous ancient artifacts seen as pagan symbols.


On the other hand using old mosques as shopping malls , now thats pretty blasphemous. Likewise the looting of the churches in the north of Cyprus was pretty pathetic.

All churches/mosques etc should become museums and be seen as part of history. "Modern" religions were supposed to be different (bring love, understanding etc) but they failed and all is left now are the rituals and the hypocrisy. What we need are educated people with humanistic values and free minds.