turkcyp wrote:Kifeas this post of yours is again very sorry my language but really ridiculous. It sounds like GCs saying they did not vote for A.Plan because they think Turkey was not going to abide by it. I can listen every complaint of GCs about A. Plan but this does not make sense to me. You are basically accusing Turkey for something they have not done yet, and trying to punish Turkey for your expectations. It is totally ridiculous.
Turkcyp,
If my posting is ridiculous one time then I wonder how many more times is yours.
Read again what you say, especially the underlined parts.
turkcyp wrote:Trust me if by some magic way RoC can make us believe that 1960 constitutional order will be upheld, then TCs will ask Turkish Army to leave. But until that day that you convince us that “you are not again cheat us from our rights, they are here to save our asses, and it is called "peace operation" for us”.
So the way I see it is RoC government duty to make us believe that we are going to be fairly treated according to laws of 1960 constitution. For example, if RoC can come up with a proposal as follows (or something in similar lines): - The next election will be hold according to 1960 agreements, and all the eligible TCs will use their 1960 constitutional rights. - And immediately with the election Turkish troops will start to withdraw to be completed in lets say 2 years.
- And any halfway fair proposal to solve the property problem to go with above points.
My opinion is that majority of TCs would have vote “Yes” to that kind of solution. As I have said it before in the context of “bbf” it is not that “bizonal” but it is the “bicommunal” part that is important for us.
And I ask you. Is it as simple as that? I.e. Should the RoC say to the TCs “come and participate in the elections and take your constructional rights back?” And if majority say, “yes” to this kind of solution… Say yes to what? To a referendum? Who will organise this referendum? The RoC? Where? In the free areas? Will “TRNC” organise this referendum?
Are you sure the TC leadership will let such a referendum to take place, if it is to be made by "TRNC" in the north? Will, only the TC community participate in it, or also the settlers will participate too? What happens to them? If RoC organises such a referendum in the free areas, will the entire TC community be willing or permitted to participate, or just a few thousands? Will Turkey accept such an outcome and also the rest of the TC community, that will choose not come into the free areas to participate in the referendum? And then if the majority says “yes” will that mean that Turkey accepts this solution and withdraws from Cyprus and ends the occupation?
I mean you put something down that doesn’t really hold too much water, to say the least.
I ask again, is the whole thing up to a declaration by the RoC?
You sound like someone who doesn’t know what the real long-standing position of the TC leadership is? There is no way such a proposal or any RoC declaration will make sense to them. Set aside that in practice it cannot be materialise.
Perhaps what you say would have made more sense if it were done under the auspices, initiative and the authority of the UN nations. In such a case then both communities need first to accept to change the platform of the pursed solution from that of BBF to that of a unitary state, based on the 1960 constitution or elsewhere. However, such a thing will never be accepted by the leadership of the TC community, because I know better than you do what the long standing agenda and priorities for them are and especially what are for Turkey.
Send them a letter tomorrow and ask them why they do not propose to the GC side to change the solution platform and start negotiations on the basis of a unitary state and on the basis of the 1960 RoC constitution.
You will be surprised of the answer you will get from them, if you get one.