Reducing Cypriot National Guard Historic Betrayal
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 Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:38 pm |
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| Nikephoros |
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Χάντζος, Δημήτριος. "Κύπρος '74 μια νίκη απωλεσθείσα." Εκδ. Κυρομάνος (Θεσσαλονίκη; 2000).
The author was initally in the 221st infantry battalion and later transfered to the 361st infantry battalion. He took part in the battle of Cyprus. He wrote the book to teach Greeks the real history of what happened in Cyprus versus what the leftist losers and myth creaters have imposed on history. The following should explain in great detail why Makarios was attacked in his palace and why he defintely deserved such an attack. For under 6 Euros you can buy the book here:
http://www.protoporia.gr/protoporia/product.asp?sku=117635&mscssid=V7RP4PQ5TKLN9LW0FPCJ5C73VSSWF2AA
A salient summary:
... "On the 1st of July 1974 the Cypriot Government decides to pass a law lowering the duration of conscription from 14 to 24 months. For the date of the application of this law they choose the date of the 20th of July (I wonder if this was an accident that this was the date of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus?)" ...
"This would have reduced the strength of the National Guard on that date to something like 5,000 men in peactime. The Turkish Cypriot enclave of Lefkosa-Agyrtas alone had 3,500 men directed from Turkish officers, and their strength(Turkish Cypriot) mounts up to 20,000 in the whole of Cyprus." ...
I hope that at least one Greek learns something from this history. From the Turks we should know what to expect; aggressive behavior and foreign policy. From our leaders we should expect better than destroying our military institutions just so they can survive in their political career; leaving thousands of Greeks open to an easy invasion by the neighboring muslim hordes. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:21 pm |
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| askimwos |
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Have you ever considered commiting suicide following the destruction of Cyprus by the likes of your EOKA B and Grivas thugs?
In pretty plain words you should have been arrested and shot on the spot for the destruction you caused on this island. You are a shameless piece of shit who wouldn't dare to say these in public. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:44 pm |
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| Nikephoros |
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| Would you rather I have posted a Makarios harangue against the National Guard and ELDYK? And then blame Greece and the junta when the Turks come? Sorry. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:10 pm |
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| Kifeas |
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| Nikephoros wrote: |
| Would you rather I have posted a Makarios harangue against the National Guard and ELDYK? And then blame Greece and the junta when the Turks come? Sorry. |
Nikephoros, all the above that you posted from Haniotaki's book, are all well known and well understandable, provided that the GC National Guard, at the time and under the then leadership and officers, was indeed a force dedicated to what Haniotakis claims, i.e. the defence of the RoC and the protection of the GC community from a possible Turkish attack. The truth however is unfortunately very different. The National Guard has become, under those officers and with Junta in Athens, from a guardian of the RoC into an underminer of the country, of its independence and an underminer of its elected leadership. The GC NG, instead of remaining focused and concentrated in how to best defend the country from the Turkish threat, i.e. the reason for which it was established in the first place, it started getting involved into politics, it started promoting anti-Makarios (the democratically elected president) propaganda among the troops and the public, it started plotting coup scenarios against the political leadership (as if Cyprus was Turkey or any other fascist country in which the Army is assumed to have the right to overthrow democratically elected governments,) and it also started secretly and illegally distributing weapons and ammunition to the Eoka B' thugs.
Under these circumstances, the purpose of maintaining such an army became meaningless, since instead of being focused on the enemy; it was focus and engaged in activities against the people and the country. This was proved in 1974, when those officers staffing the NG proved themselves totally incompetent in properly defending Cyprus from a Turkish invasion, as they have not been able to do one single thing correctly, out of all those plans that were designed for the purpose of repelling a Turkish invasion. Every mission they (officers) undertook in 1974, it was a failure. To this end, Makarios wish and will to reduce it's size is perfectly understandable under these circumstances, as it was proved that with or without a National Guard (under that leadership,) the end result would have been the same, in case of Turkish invasion.
Now, you come here and, with the shamelessness of 1000 monkeys put together, you try to become the apologiser of those idiots (and traitors) for all that they have done against the people of Cyprus. Get lost! |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:19 pm |
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| Nikephoros |
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What political offiliation are you today Kifeas so I can understand what kind of character I am dealing with?
"apologiser of those idiots (and traitors)"
Well that idiot has a name: he is Demeterios Hantzou and for a fact he fought to defend Cyprus and Hellenism unlike certain known but not well exposed true traitors who had fled and made speeches abroad. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:46 pm |
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| Nikephoros wrote: |
| ...he fought to defend Cyprus and Hellenism |
Well considering that's what really screwed up our island in the first place, for once i am going to have to agree with Kifeas! |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:09 pm |
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Although I am not a communist, may add that the other purpose of that army was to beat up the poor communist soldiers, and harass them to the ultimate degree. Even the suspicion that one might be a communist was enough to make his life hell.
There were even wise officers in the Army asking you trivial questions e.g if you are in war and the enemy in front of you is a Turk or a Communist who would you kill? I remember I once said the Communist they beat me up because they said I was a Turkophile. The next time I said the Turk, they beated me up again because they said I was a Communist. The third time I kept my mouth shut, they beated me again to see if I had voice..
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:29 pm |
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Seriously now Nikephoros take this from a NON LEFTIST:
Both the coup and the Invasion in Cyprus were staged and agreed between the Greek Junta-CIA-and Turkey to achieve double Enosis, i.e part of Cyprus to get annexed to Greece and part to Turkey.
What went wrong is that Turkey got more than what was agreed. Famagusta was not in any plan that's why until today it is kept vacant.
The thousands of GC soldiers who tried to fight in 1974 witnessed this treason to all its extend. All you have to do is speak with some of them. Mainland Greek officers even had maps with them showing exactly where the Turks would stop. Soldiers were denied ammunition, reservists were denied to even get guns, heavy weaponry tanks-artillery etc were ordered to hold their fire, critical post conquered by commandos with huge sacrifices were ordered to withdraw. St hilarion castle was captured 3 times do you know that? It was all treason my friend, within a weak every single soldier was abandoning his position and telling everybody "einai ola prodomena"/everything is treasoned.
I really urge you to talk with GC soldiers who did participate in 1974 war...
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:31 pm |
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| Pyrpolizer wrote: |
There were even wise officers in the Army asking you trivial questions e.g if you are in war and the enemy in front of you is a Turk or a Communist who would you kill? I remember I once said the Communist they beat me up because they said I was a Turkophile. The next time I said the Turk, they beated me up again because they said I was a Communist. The third time I kept my mouth shut, they beated me again to see if I had voice..
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In Turkish we have a popular saying which roughly translates into...Military service begins where logic ends...I see this rule applies to your National Guard as well.. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:57 pm |
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| Jerry |
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| Pyrpolizer wrote: |
Seriously now Nikephoros take this from a NON LEFTIST:
Both the coup and the Invasion in Cyprus were staged and agreed between the Greek Junta-CIA-and Turkey to achieve double Enosis, i.e part of Cyprus to get annexed to Greece and part to Turkey.
What went wrong is that Turkey got more than what was agreed. Famagusta was not in any plan that's why until today it is kept vacant.
The thousands of GC soldiers who tried to fight in 1974 witnessed this treason to all its extend. All you have to do is speak with some of them. Mainland Greek officers even had maps with them showing exactly where the Turks would stop. Soldiers were denied ammunition, reservists were denied to even get guns, heavy weaponry tanks-artillery etc were ordered to hold their fire, critical post conquered by commandos with huge sacrifices were ordered to withdraw. St hilarion castle was captured 3 times do you know that? It was all treason my friend, within a weak every single soldier was abandoning his position and telling everybody "einai ola prodomena"/everything is treasoned.
I really urge you to talk with GC soldiers who did participate in 1974 war...
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My cousin was in the NG in 1974. He was a reservist but went to his "barracks" with others when the invasion started to do his bit but was told to go home by officers and that everything would be OK. My father said they were cowards but it seems that some were not given the opportunity to resist the invasion. |
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