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miltiades wrote:Well mate let me tell you that Birkibrisly who was born 6 miles away from where I was born , from where my father and my grand father ware born , is closer to me than any f..ng Greek from Salonica , Sparta , Athens or Crete. The fact that he was born a muslim and I a Christian makes no bloody difference . My people are the Cypriots , give no shit if T/C , G/C Armenian or as in in the case of my two children "mongrels " , half Cypriot half English. Cyprus is a nation and a country too.

Someone not fitting into your mould again miltiades, ah the pains of being just a "Cypriot".

Dear Get Real,

please GET REAL. Your ignorance (or is it deliberate ignorance?) is unbelievable !!
Does the site you sent me prove your point ?? Absolutely NOT.
I know very well about Chirokitia, but do we know anything about those people? As your site mentioned, pretty much nothing, and they were only about about 300 inhabitants. Were those 300 people the ancestors of all GC's and TC's in Cyprus? You gotta be kidding me...
Now i understand that perhaps those Chirokitians were GC's, or maybe not, as Greeks existed even before that, but one thing is for damn sure: They were NOT TC's. It as simple as that: The history (at least according to the evidence) of the Turks does not go that back in order for you or other TC's to claim common ancestry with GC's.
You (and other ignorants) heard one word, "Chirokitia", and you keep repeating it like parrots without any rational examination of history, evidence, etc. A basic characteristic of a peasant.
But again, it perhaps serves your politics to do that. Rushing to assign to your self a nationality, or a common ancient ancestry, etc, to falsely justify that you were here before 1578 when the Ottomans came.
Now, i understand the desperate need of your to do that, but can you at least not tell me what i AM and what i am NOT? Are you going to forcefully erase my heritage, roots, identity, history and cultural, because it is convenient to you to ascribe to everybody in this island an unrealistic common ancestor?
The whole thing reminds me the story of Adam and Eve, the so called ancestors of all humans. How convenient....and how fictional.....
Unfortunately, there are many ignorant GC's to support the same claims as you.
And by the way, nationalism is not a bad word. It is how you act in the name of nationalism that can be good or bad. That's why, Turkish nationalism is different than Greek nationalism, British nationalism, Arabic, etc. So, free your self from your little taboos and face reality.

Diogenes wrote:
So, free your self from your little taboos and face reality.

Whose definition of reality do you go by, Turkey's or the rest of the civilized countries? Because they have different meanings.

Diogenes wrote:Dear Get Real,

please GET REAL. Your ignorance (or is it deliberate ignorance?) is unbelievable !!
Does the site you sent me prove your point ?? Absolutely NOT.
I know very well about Chirokitia, but do we know anything about those people? As your site mentioned, pretty much nothing, and they were only about about 300 inhabitants. Were those 300 people the ancestors of all GC's and TC's in Cyprus? You gotta be kidding me...
Now i understand that perhaps those Chirokitians were GC's, or maybe not, as Greeks existed even before that, but one thing is for damn sure: They were NOT TC's. It as simple as that: The history (at least according to the evidence) of the Turks does not go that back in order for you or other TC's to claim common ancestry with GC's.
You (and other ignorants) heard one word, "Chirokitia", and you keep repeating it like parrots without any rational examination of history, evidence, etc. A basic characteristic of a peasant.
But again, it perhaps serves your politics to do that. Rushing to assign to your self a nationality, or a common ancient ancestry, etc, to falsely justify that you were here before 1578 when the Ottomans came.
Now, i understand the desperate need of your to do that, but can you at least not tell me what i AM and what i am NOT? Are you going to forcefully erase my heritage, roots, identity, history and cultural, because it is convenient to you to ascribe to everybody in this island an unrealistic common ancestor?
The whole thing reminds me the story of Adam and Eve, the so called ancestors of all humans. How convenient....and how fictional.....
Unfortunately, there are many ignorant GC's to support the same claims as you.
And by the way, nationalism is not a bad word. It is how you act in the name of nationalism that can be good or bad. That's why, Turkish nationalism is different than Greek nationalism, British nationalism, Arabic, etc. So, free your self from your little taboos and face reality.

Hey Poindexter,

Not enough info for you on Choirokoitia? Here read some more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choirokoitia

So you don’t like our ancestors at Choirokoitia? How about the ones at Sotira?

http://www.ancientworlds.net/aw/Places/Place/438169

http://www.albany.edu/classics/Cyp97/cypfield97.html

I’ll tell you what, why don’t you read through all that archeologists have discovered in Cyprus and you can pick and choose what’s valid and what’s invalid…

Pick any archeological site you like…

http://members.aol.com/EastMedit/aja/sites.html

or read it all…

http://members.aol.com/EastMedit/aja/aj ... s%20French

There you go.

Let’s hope you’ll locate the year in which Greece “discovered” Cyprus but be careful not to go too far back because you’ll find that Greece didn’t even exist!

IDIOT!

Get Real! wrote:

Diogenes wrote:Dear Get Real,

please GET REAL. Your ignorance (or is it deliberate ignorance?) is unbelievable !!
Does the site you sent me prove your point ?? Absolutely NOT.
I know very well about Chirokitia, but do we know anything about those people? As your site mentioned, pretty much nothing, and they were only about about 300 inhabitants. Were those 300 people the ancestors of all GC's and TC's in Cyprus? You gotta be kidding me...
Now i understand that perhaps those Chirokitians were GC's, or maybe not, as Greeks existed even before that, but one thing is for damn sure: They were NOT TC's. It as simple as that: The history (at least according to the evidence) of the Turks does not go that back in order for you or other TC's to claim common ancestry with GC's.
You (and other ignorants) heard one word, "Chirokitia", and you keep repeating it like parrots without any rational examination of history, evidence, etc. A basic characteristic of a peasant.
But again, it perhaps serves your politics to do that. Rushing to assign to your self a nationality, or a common ancient ancestry, etc, to falsely justify that you were here before 1578 when the Ottomans came.
Now, i understand the desperate need of your to do that, but can you at least not tell me what i AM and what i am NOT? Are you going to forcefully erase my heritage, roots, identity, history and cultural, because it is convenient to you to ascribe to everybody in this island an unrealistic common ancestor?
The whole thing reminds me the story of Adam and Eve, the so called ancestors of all humans. How convenient....and how fictional.....
Unfortunately, there are many ignorant GC's to support the same claims as you.
And by the way, nationalism is not a bad word. It is how you act in the name of nationalism that can be good or bad. That's why, Turkish nationalism is different than Greek nationalism, British nationalism, Arabic, etc. So, free your self from your little taboos and face reality.

Hey Poindexter,

Not enough info for you on Choirokoitia? Here read some more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choirokoitia

So you don’t like our ancestors at Choirokoitia? How about the ones at Sotira?

http://www.ancientworlds.net/aw/Places/Place/438169

http://www.albany.edu/classics/Cyp97/cypfield97.html

I’ll tell you what, why don’t you read through all that archeologists have discovered in Cyprus and you can pick and choose what’s valid and what’s invalid…

Pick any archeological site you like…

http://members.aol.com/EastMedit/aja/sites.html

or read it all…

http://members.aol.com/EastMedit/aja/aj ... s%20French

There you go.

Let’s hope you’ll locate the year in which Greece “discovered” Cyprus but be careful not to go too far back because you’ll find that Greece didn’t even exist!

IDIOT!

Are you trying to convist us that we are Elephants? Is looks rediculus , shelters came in Cyprus only on 1578 AC to try to convist people that they are the origin citizens of the Island.When Cyprus population started to speak Greek Turks , as nation, were hidden in Mongolia mountains and nobody knew about them.

I can not believe how a person , with even no education at all, can be convisted about such theories.

Turkish Cypriots are just a minority created by an invasion/occupation and the GCs make a big mistake to accept a Cyprus problem solution which is not based on this fact.

The basis of Cyprus problem is an occupation by a foreign army and no further negotiations should be accepted by GCs before invasion army get out of the Island- All others are theories which created by the power of arms and should never be accepted either by GCs or by the International community.
Brgds

TOTIS MILIOTIS wrote:Are you trying to convist us that we are Elephants? Is looks rediculus , shelters came in Cyprus only on 1578 AC

Err, no Totis that's the power surge your brain experiences everytime you post a gem like this.

There you go.

Let’s hope you’ll locate the year in which Greece “discovered” Cyprus but be careful not to go too far back because you’ll find that Greece didn’t even exist!

IDIOT!


IDIOT? IDIOTS ARE ALL GCs and their leadership which, despite they are dealling with an invasion army in North they continue to negotiate for redigulus solutions and helping the funny state in North to survive and increase the life standard in all respects.

TCs are entitled the rights of a minority nothing else. Finally maybe they should accept same rules apply for Kurds in mainland Turkey

EPSILON wrote:IDIOT? IDIOTS ARE ALL GCs and their leadership which, despite they are dealling with an invasion army in North they continue to negotiate for redigulus solutions and helping the funny state in North to survive and increase the life standard in all respects.

What can we do for the time being? We're all holding our breath waiting for "Mother Greece" to come out with her military might and liberate the enslaved "Mycenean" island!

Get Real! wrote:

EPSILON wrote:IDIOT? IDIOTS ARE ALL GCs and their leadership which, despite they are dealling with an invasion army in North they continue to negotiate for redigulus solutions and helping the funny state in North to survive and increase the life standard in all respects.

What can we do for the time being? We're all holding our breath waiting for "Mother Greece" to come out with her military might and liberate the enslaved "Mycenean" island!

...AND AT SAME TIME MAMY!!!AMERICA WILL LEBERATE KURDS IN SOUTHEAST TURKEY!!!!!

Nevertheless your post is just an approval of the fact that what exist in NC as "state" is a result of an invation and power of guns.Even USA had the FAR WEST but life is continue and always changing!!!!

Further to my last, Ertogan declared that the next time an American airplane will violete Turkey's airspace it will be crashed!!!!!!

Maybe we are more close to the show than I was expected!!!!!