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Eliko wrote:bigdog, oranos64 is the man you want to see, he's been everywhere mate.

YEP ...I WAS THERE 4 WEEKS AGO ...the place is a dump ..beach is fine ..but its a dangerous place glass everywhere buildings collapsed or immeniant catagories ...overgrown with trees ,shrubs ,.lots of snakes and other animals ...U.N brought in some consultants ....most of the buildings will need to be brought down ...and rebuilt ..the whole area from foundations to rebuilding will be a nightmare. ill post some pictures on the forum in a couple of weeks when i get my pc back

to summarise we are talking a good billion in costs for the rebuilding of infrastructure to a good standard ...
as for larnaca is rebuilding itself but still a shite hole - no real beaches ...mickey mouse hotels ...no real car parks ...run a mickey mouse mayor ,...the forgotten city of cyprus ....grad rebuild on the way ...

i think most of locals need a personality by pass and a lesson in customer service along the seafront

As far as I remember the UN have a route in the city that they regularly patrol, it is easy enough to make out on satellite photos because they are the roads with no trees and bushes growing in the tarmac. Otherwise the city is dead. Houses have been pretty much stripped of everything valuable including door and window frames, so they are just hulks now. If you want a better look try the dead city cafe in Derynia, you can rent powerful binoculars and you can take a look at the city. And that is a safe way to allay your curiosity.

Maybe us two should band together and get permission to photograph the wildlife that has filled the void left by humans. I am especially interested in the feral descendants of formerly domesticated animals, like cats, dogs, goats etc, how they survived and adapted to the city. Someone should do a study before the city is reinhabited and all biolgical evidence is lost. I do not think that anyone would be willing to wait for scientists to study before they start to raze the old buildings and build new ones.

bigdog wrote:

turkish_cypriot wrote:

bigdog wrote:

Nikitas wrote:I know one man who has been inside the city, crawled past the UN and Turkish guarfds seceral times to go to his house to recover some important papers he had hidden there.

His descriptions of how nature reclaims a man made environment are fascinating. The place is crawling with insects, rodents, reptiles and lots of feral cats and dogs. Trees and shrubs are growing through the cracks n the streets. It sounds fascinating froma biological and ecological point of view.

Thanks Nikitas
That what was crossing my mind when looking in from outside . In certain places the fences look so easy to get past if you put your mind to it . I am NOT suggesting for a moment that anyone should do this because of the obvious dangers but as you say I find it fascinating what it must be like in there after so long .

I did my military right next to Marash and the generals told me how theres hotels that were booked upto the year 2000!!!!!! Sophia Lauren also has a home there...

You must have got curious , always been my downfall .

Do the UN still patrol inside the city ?

yes we do ,...its very dangerous ...some mines and explosives have been found

i went to find my grandpas bar /pub and our land around that area ..which i will inherite in my next life time

i would not advise any of you to venture in ....on the day i was their i counted 20 vipers ....alone ...some wild dogs
the buildings are in a state ....needing tearing down ..its like a scene from 28 weeks later ...very disturbing ...

very sad ...UN want the communites to share the area as a test project ...but the costs will be astronomical ,.,so we will need loans etc from wealthy U.N members to do the work ..guess who will give us the £££ yep same guys who now back us to mine gas and oil ....

oranos 64 ...legend ...over and out

Eliko wrote:bigdog, oranos64 is the man you want to see, he's been everywhere mate.

would you be ok with me putting some pictures on the forum of varosha ,nicosia airport etc ....most of the U.N land and some pictures i took .... in a TC military base to show how the turks treat the church inside their base ?

oranos64 wrote:

Eliko wrote:bigdog, oranos64 is the man you want to see, he's been everywhere mate.

YEP ...I WAS THERE 4 WEEKS AGO ...the place is a dump ..beach is fine ..but its a dangerous place glass everywhere buildings collapsed or immeniant catagories ...overgrown with trees ,shrubs ,.lots of snakes and other animals ...U.N brought in some consultants ....most of the buildings will need to be brought down ...and rebuilt ..the whole area from foundations to rebuilding will be a nightmare. ill post some pictures on the forum in a couple of weeks when i get my pc back

to summarise we are talking a good billion in costs for the rebuilding of infrastructure to a good standard ...
as for larnaca is rebuilding itself but still a shite hole - no real beaches ...mickey mouse hotels ...no real car parks ...run a mickey mouse mayor ,...the forgotten city of cyprus ....grad rebuild on the way ...

i think most of locals need a personality by pass and a lesson in customer service along the seafront

Is it true about cars still left in showrooms ? Some people I have spoken to have said this and others have said that everything is gone . I have been told something similar about Nicosia .

Oranos,

The nightmare you saw is heaven to civil engineering companies! I wish I could get a pie of the demolition work when Famagusta gets going as a project. Just imagine how many professions and businesses will be brought in- the international city planners who will be asked to redraw the map of the city to avoid past planning blunders, the infrastructure consultants who will plan the drains, bio treatment plans, power lines, phone and data lines and a zillion other things that go into a city of 40 000 inhabitants plus hotels etc.

In viw of the above your figure of 1 billion pounds sounds low. I heard 5 billion and even that sounds like a conservative estimate. Sometimes one gets the impression that us Famagustians who want to return do not exactly understand what we will face when we get there.

You mentioned animals- what kind of animals did you see when you were there? It is my special interest that is why I ask. So many people visited and not one has given an account of the wildlife in the city now.

Hey Nikitas did you know "SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN" published a article about what would happen to NYC if humans just disapeared, it was a very good article.

Nikitas wrote:As far as I remember the UN have a route in the city that they regularly patrol, it is easy enough to make out on satellite photos because they are the roads with no trees and bushes growing in the tarmac. Otherwise the city is dead. Houses have been pretty much stripped of everything valuable including door and window frames, so they are just hulks now. If you want a better look try the dead city cafe in Derynia, you can rent powerful binoculars and you can take a look at the city. And that is a safe way to allay your curiosity.

Maybe us two should band together and get permission to photograph the wildlife that has filled the void left by humans. I am especially interested in the feral descendants of formerly domesticated animals, like cats, dogs, goats etc, how they survived and adapted to the city. Someone should do a study before the city is reinhabited and all biolgical evidence is lost. I do not think that anyone would be willing to wait for scientists to study before they start to raze the old buildings and build new ones.

Nikatas ,.,.if you guys want ,..i will give you a tour ....as visitors ....but ...i must admit you may get scared ...we are rarely armed in their ..but i had to shoot a viper !!! nearly 4 foot long ..it backed us into a corner ...

then as we went near a bar ,..its roof flew off ...it was like something out of them 90s horror movies

not many animals to be honest ....some insects ,lots of snakes ,rats,tarantulas ,scorpions ,wild dogs ,cats ...over grown ...shrubs

we patrol with adrelalin packs in case ....of attacks from animals

also i dont like to be horrible but rabies was recently found in dogs on the north side ...so we shoot to kill dogs i am afraid in that area ...if they are agressive

Oranos we would love a tour, anything about Famagusta is like water to a man in the desert!

People say I have a good memory, fascinated because I can remember funny little details decades later. They would be amazed what I can remember about Famagusta! To this day I recall the smell of wine from the KEO depot near our house! I even have the layout of all the streets by name firmly in my head. I guess most people who lived in such a small city do. So a tour would be very nice!