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Ok there is a Kurd angle to the Cyprus problem.

GC's supporting them as well as giving them passports to travel.

GreekForumer wrote:RECIPROCAL COMMUNITY RIGHTS PLAN

"GCs will accept any TC community right if, and only if, the Kurds of Turkey can also claim the EXACT same right."

The beauty of this plan is twofold.

1. The GCs are COMPLETELY out of the loop. You cannot claim the GCs are being unfair because they are not negotiating these rights. TCs and mainland Turks can negotiate what these rights are.

2. Fairness. You cannot ask something of one community that your own community is not willing to accept. Surely ??

...assuming that somehow Kurds and TCs share this bond, that they can help each other, it would mean GCs are equal to Turks.
GCs, therefore, will demand benefits for TCs so that Turkey will reciprocate with like demands, toward Kurds. A war of goodness would break out toward the malice. Some TCs would demonstrate their loyalty to Turkey, by refusing their Rights living in the RoC as serfs. Kurds as a thriving minority, elect a President in Turkey, realising Attaturk's dream with no need for the 'Army', to the horror of Kemalists, when Greece decides to join with Macedonia to demonstrate their Goodwill by giving all of them Passports, wanting to be Macedonians themselves. We become a world power, peace reigns amongst all Grecophones and Turcophones because their People all over the world are focused, having found their oneness, on their Sovereignty, because our credibility is vastly improved, being the choice of Nations as a State, and as States choosing. The EU includes Turkish (and Greek) to its list of Official Languages. Turkish becomes the language of Diplomatic Affairs, and Greek the Language of the Arts, and Political Science. Everyone speaks English of course...

Nurgary wrote:Ok there is a Kurd angle to the Cyprus problem.

GC's supporting them as well as giving them passports to travel.

Nurgary ... you keep missing the point ..... The GCs are out of the loop! ... It is up to you Turks ... you are Turkish, right?

GreekForumer wrote:"GCs will accept any TC community right if, and only if, the Kurds of Turkey can also claim the EXACT same right."

Here's your chance .... What TC community right are you requesting?

Nurgary wrote:You just need to focus on reality - not you view of reality.

What you don't take into account that TC's have rights also - It's not just a GC Island.

Your problem is that you have "Diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the ideas".

Do you mean Jungle Law?

it never ceases to amaze me that greek cypriots can portray themselves as oppressed and hard done by in cyprus.these are the people that will determine the present position in cyprus will remain forever

kentish wrote:it never ceases to amaze me that greek cypriots can portray themselves as oppressed and hard done by in cyprus.these are the people that will determine the present position in cyprus will remain forever

I wish I could decipher your message ....

The first sentence is something about oppression ... so I guess you are sympathising with the 200,000 GCs ethnically cleansed from the north by the Turks; to be replaced in their colonization / expansionist plans ... by Anatolian settlers ... ( + 43,000 Turkish troops).

The second sentence is beyond my comprehension completely ...

So how about some reflections on another group of people similarly oppressed by the Turks, to view until you can rephrase you sentence....

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=T1KaCkwft ... re=related

Fairness. You cannot ask something of one community that your own community is not willing to accept. Surely ??

oh yes you can if your a Turkish speaking Cypriot :):)

Well I think it speaks volumes that the Turk-TCs have remained silent regarding this proposal ...

Seems like they are hoping we will forget, and the anomaly in their requests regarding Cyprus, and what they are prepared to give up for the Kurds, will just be swept under the carpet!

My conclusion again, is that fairness and Turks constitutes an oxymoron ....

GreekForumer wrote:RECIPROCAL COMMUNITY RIGHTS PLAN

"GCs will accept any TC community right if, and only if, the Kurds of Turkey can also claim the EXACT same right."

The beauty of this plan is twofold.

1. The GCs are COMPLETELY out of the loop. You cannot claim the GCs are being unfair because they are not negotiating these rights. TCs and mainland Turks can negotiate what these rights are.

2. Fairness. You cannot ask something of one community that your own community is not willing to accept. Surely ??

Why not add a few more...Like the Turks of Crete

Nurgary wrote:You just need to focus on reality - not you view of reality.

What you don't take into account that TC's have rights also - It's not just a GC Island.

Your problem is that you have "Diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the ideas".

What are you talking about ?????

With my plan I have not only have taken into account that the TCs have rights, I have made TC rights CENTRAL to my plan. Read it again. Perhaps you should read it a few times to convince yourself of this fact. I agree that the GCs are greedy, unfair, intransigent bastards. That is the why I created a plan to COMPLETELY REMOVE these GC blood suckers from negotiating what rights TCs should or should not have. The GCs are completely out of the negotiations.

Of course I had to add the “Kurd” proviso to put a break on any extravagant TC demands and to ensure fairness by the principle of reciprocity. You can see the need for a limiting provision, don’t you ? Otherwise TCs might demand each one of them get to own a GC as a personal slave, for example.