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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:33 am
by zan
You didn't mention that in your original post....Sign me up!!! :lol:

Re: RECIPROCAL COMMUNITY RIGHTS PLAN

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:39 am
by Piratis
GreekForumer wrote:RECIPROCAL COMMUNITY RIGHTS PLAN

"GCs will accept any TC community right if, and only if, the Kurds of Turkey can also claim the EXACT same right."

The beauty of this plan is twofold.

1. The GCs are COMPLETELY out of the loop. You cannot claim the GCs are being unfair because they are not negotiating these rights. TCs and mainland Turks can negotiate what these rights are.

2. Fairness. You cannot ask something of one community that your own community is not willing to accept. Surely ??


There are some flaws in your proposal GreekForumer.

The Kurds have been living in the region of Kurdistan for 1000s of years, long before the Turks arrived there. TCs arrived in Cyprus much more recently as invadors, and they where named as "TCs" (as opposed to just Turks or Muslims) within the last century. Furthermore the Kurds didn't steal the land of Kurdistan from the Turks. On the other hand the TCs stole the land that they now declared as "trnc" from us.

The Kurds are in the same category as the Basques, the Tibetans and a few other nations who are under occupation.

The TCs are a minority similar to the minority of Turks in Bulgaria, the Turks in Rhodes, the Whites in Africa and Latin America, and in general minorities that where created with the transfers of population from the colonial powers to their colonies.

Here is a map of colonialism. Almost the whole world was colonized and almost in every country of the world there is some bigger of smaller minority of former colonialists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Colonisation2.gif

What Cyprus needs is one thing: To finally be liberated from foreign rulers. The TCs and any other minority can be equal Cypriot citizens with their fair share of power, but Turkey can not rule (via TCs) any part of our country or have any say in our internal affairs. The same goes for UK.

Re: RECIPROCAL COMMUNITY RIGHTS PLAN

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:41 am
by GreekForumer
Piratis wrote:There are some flaws in your proposal GreekForumer.


I know where you are coming from Piratis, but for the sake of simplicity I have chosen "EXACT same rights" for my proposal. Perhaps, in the name of fairness, the TCs themselves can amend my proposal to take into account what you have written.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:44 am
by Nikitas
Kurds? What Kurds? You must be referring to Mountain Turks.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:26 am
by zan
Nikitas wrote:Kurds? What Kurds? You must be referring to Mountain Turks.


Absolutely!! The ones that are the equivalent to the Armenians and others i the "RoC".....They chose to stay where they are. 8) 8)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:54 am
by Nikitas
You mean all those Kurds in Istanbul, in the TRNC and in Germany all chose to leave their homes? Like the GCs in the north? Damn deserters!

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:57 pm
by zan
Nikitas wrote:You mean all those Kurds in Istanbul, in the TRNC and in Germany all chose to leave their homes? Like the GCs in the north? Damn deserters!


Your words not mine......They want to pin their flags to the illegal "RoC" then that is their problem.

Re: RECIPROCAL COMMUNITY RIGHTS PLAN

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:09 pm
by Oracle
zan wrote:
GreekForumer wrote:RECIPROCAL COMMUNITY RIGHTS PLAN

"GCs will accept any TC community right if, and only if, the Kurds of Turkey can also claim the EXACT same right."

The beauty of this plan is twofold.

1. The GCs are COMPLETELY out of the loop. You cannot claim the GCs are being unfair because they are not negotiating these rights. TCs and mainland Turks can negotiate what these rights are.

2. Fairness. You cannot ask something of one community that your own community is not willing to accept. Surely ??


Why not add a few more...Like the Turks of Crete :roll: :roll: :roll:


Greeks of Pontus, Smyrna, Constantinople, Imbros, Tenedos, Hatay, Eastern Thrace.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:41 pm
by zan
Thanks for reinforcing my point!!!! :wink: 8) 8) 8)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:59 pm
by GreekForumer
Zan wrote:Why not add a few more...Like the Turks of Crete

Absolutely!! The ones that are the equivalent to the Armenians and others i the "RoC".....They chose to stay where they are

Your words not mine......They want to pin their flags to the illegal "RoC" then that is their problem.

thanks for reinforcing my point!!!!


Sorry Zan, but can you spell out your point for me and it's relation to my proposal. I find you too cryptic at times.