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Solving the Problem - Step by Step

PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2005 7:21 am
by magikthrill
Ok here's something we actually haven't done in a while. Instead of cursing each other out and pointing the finger to one another, trying to figure out who is to blame more, I decided to revive another "solution attempt" thread.

Since there are obviously MANY things the two communities cannot agree on (as well as members within each community) let's take the problem step by step.

The first step can be the structure of the federal government (legislative and executive brances only).

FOllowing is my proposal and possible options:

Federal government

Senate
24 GCs + 24 TCs
Two options:
1. Only GCs can vote for GC senators and only TCs can vote for TC senators. *
2. All residents of the northern state can (only) vote for TCs and all residents of the south state can (only) vote for GCs.
Either way, in the end half will be from TC community half from GC community.


Chamber of Deputies
48 total
Options:
1. The deputies will be elected proportionally to each community.
a. only TCs can vote for TC deputies and GCs for GC deputies
b. TCs can vote for both GC and TC deputies as can GCs vote for both GC and TC deputies. *
2. The deputies will be elected proportionally to the population of each state.
a. No more than 1/3 of deputies in the north can be GCs and no more than 1/3 deputies can be TCs


Presidential Council
2 GCs + 2 TCs
ALL Cypriots will elect the presidential council directly. GCs will vote for both the TC and GC candidates as will TCs vote for both the GC and TC candidates.

For a federal law to pass it must be approved in both the senate and chamber of deputies by simple majority. The presidential council can veto a bill only through a 3/4 majority.
Possibility: The amount of vetoes can be restricted in a certain amount of time (a year or presidential councils duration) period so that they are only used for exceptionally important case.


* I believe these legislative branch options are the best because:
a) they satisfy the TC community's political demands
b) they do not interfere with the freedom of movement within the UNITED (and not "united) republic making the property rights issue easier to tackle.

Comments, proposals?

PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2005 11:58 am
by turkkan
freedom of movement should be an established fact on the island, however to be able to buy property wherever you want shouldnt. IN the turkish constituent state there must always be a majority of turkish cypriots. That is a must, until perhaps some further date, when if you wish you can have a referendum on it.

PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2005 12:01 pm
by magikthrill
turkkan wrote:freedom of movement should be an established fact on the island, however to be able to buy property wherever you want shouldnt. IN the turkish constituent state there must always be a majority of turkish cypriots. That is a must, until perhaps some further date, when if you wish you can have a referendum on it.


turkkan,

how will freedom to buy property anywhere in your own country limit the political status of the TCs exactly in a federal system as the one proposed above???

PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2005 1:32 pm
by garbitsch
Magik, your proposal is impressive and deserves an appreciation.

PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2005 10:27 pm
by magikthrill
garbitsch wrote:Magik, your proposal is impressive and deserves an appreciation.


Tesekkurler kardesh?

PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 11:54 am
by brother
turkkan

freedom of movement should be an established fact on the island, however to be able to buy property wherever you want shouldnt. IN the turkish constituent state there must always be a majority of turkish cypriots. That is a must, until perhaps some further date, when if you wish you can have a referendum on it.



Why would that be important when the settlers already out number the tc and in the future we will be come the minority among the settlers.
Should you not imply the same attitude to settlers aswell and also stop them entering on i.d cards and actually make them use passports and check how much money is in there pockets to see if they can afford there stay in TRNC.
But i forgot we are going to blindly accept the settlers and let them shit all over us and put restrictions on our partners of the island.

PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 1:53 pm
by garbitsch
magikthrill wrote:
garbitsch wrote:Magik, your proposal is impressive and deserves an appreciation.


Tesekkurler kardesh?


parakalo

PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 1:59 pm
by magikthrill
garbitsch wrote:
se parakalo


se parakalo = please
parakalo = you're welcome

:)

PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 2:01 pm
by garbitsch
gosh I always mix both :D but they sound quite similar ahaha

PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2005 3:31 pm
by Main_Source
freedom of movement should be an established fact on the island, however to be able to buy property wherever you want shouldnt. IN the turkish constituent state there must always be a majority of turkish cypriots. That is a must, until perhaps some further date, when if you wish you can have a referendum on it.


This is crap. How can I be a citizen of a country but not be allowed to live where I want.