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I dont think any Greek cyp will accept any solution where they do not get access to their property. Lets not forget that this so called "trnc" is built upon lands owned by Greek cyps. When Turk cyps are building buildings on our lands and most are staying empty for the hope that in a solution we would come back and buy them is wishful thinking, on the Tc.

CopperLine wrote:

What you can say however is that I was the owner of my land, am still the owner of my land and always will be the owner of my land until I choose differently..... so Bugger Off!

Is that your idea of negotiating ? (I can understand it might be your objective, but is that really a serious approach to negotiation ?)

Yes, you've got it, my approach to negotiations on property rights is not to negotiate with land grabbing thieves.

You really should learn what a "right" is mate. It isn't a gift, given to you or me by anyone, it isn't something that others allow you to have it's something that both you and I have inalienably "as of right" so it isn't open to plonkerish negotiations.

It's damnably outrageous that some here think human rights, property rights etc are negotiable. Says an awful lot.

Okay Guys now first of all oracle my friend u try to be seen as un negotiable and I appreciate that for sure there might be somand there is only one solution on this which is the both governments put their values to the ree few poeple like u in cyprus who say NO to whatever been offered like the bloddy kurts in Turkey however we are the ones who will solute that u cant say "we dont need to negotiate for smt which already belongs to us" now accept or not but Turkish site doen not belong to u and I am trying to make a solution over here with u and if u dont want to participate fine

but those who wants to participate as long as I went over the main problem is the "land owners"

And there is only one solution on this which is both govenrments put the values of the lands on both sides and that amount will be offered to the old owners like they will sell their properties to the new residents in a sense
I am afraid thats the only solution now tell me ARE WE AGREE ON THIS CHAPTER IF NOT TELL ME ANOTHER MODEL DONT JUST SAY NO ? Please when u disaccept smt always put forward your case on solution dont just cause problems like 2 year old babies...

oracle u said

"Why did you get an RoC passport?"

what do u mean by RoC passport ??

WELCOME SILVERMOON. Many in my family were made to disappear for their heritance; how can that be settled only with money...

My family cares for trees that were planted by the apostle Paul, our homes are older than our neighbour's who are "new" to our village, even if they have been there for a few hundred years; what value can you put on my loss?

I am neither "Greek" or "Turkish", but Cypriot; on this I agree with you...

will you read my manifesto and leave me your comments...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16772

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=19022

silentmoon wrote:oracle u said

"Why did you get an RoC passport?"

what do u mean by RoC passport ??

You said you had a Cyprus passport ... I then asked you why did you get an RoC passport?

(Is there any other kind of Cyprus passport, than an RoC one? )

silentmoon wrote:U cant just say hello I was the owner of your land please leave !!

I don’t recall anyone in July/August 1974 saying…

“Excuse me, we’re the Turkish military and we’ve come to confiscate your property and land thanks!”

Instead, they launched a full scale military invasion, dropped napalm, shelled and executed people, so since when did you lot get politically correct and acquire manners?

CopperLine wrote:

What you can say however is that I was the owner of my land, am still the owner of my land and always will be the owner of my land until I choose differently..... so Bugger Off!

Is that your idea of negotiating ? (I can understand it might be your objective, but is that really a serious approach to negotiation ?)

Are you seriously implying that refugees should “negotiate” their rightful land and/or properties? Why have you got an overdue IOU against them?

copper is a englishman what else do you expect

CBBB wrote:

DT. wrote:I'll tell you what.

1) Remove the troops
2) Everyone gets his land back
3) Apply full democracy over all of Cyprus. One person one vote.
4) Give every tc business a 100,000Euro warrant to use as collateral for their businesses.

On point 2, does that include the refugees of the sixties as well?

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