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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:25 pm
by Oracle
Maybe he is as bad as you .... :roll:

I'm sorry Bananiot, but as a 'cop-out teacher' myself I think teachers should be the last bastions of political expediency. Most of them enter the teaching profession as a massive vacation-gorging experience, looking for the easy life ... so as far as I'm concerned they should be ignored, not relegated to any solution-seeking methods.

But, Cyprus has a history of looking to school-teachers as the purveyors of truths and frankly nowadays that simply is not true!

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:32 pm
by boomerang
Bananiot wrote: I am here to express my honest, unbiased, democratic and so forth opinion.

but if anyone disagrees with your "honest, unbiased, democratic and so forth opinions", you automatically label them as fascists and bash patriots...why is that bananiot?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:01 pm
by B25
boomerang wrote:
Bananiot wrote: I am here to express my honest, unbiased, democratic and so forth opinion.

but if anyone disagrees with your "honest, unbiased, democratic and so forth opinions", you automatically label them as fascists and bash patriots...why is that bananiot?


Honest, maybe, unbiased, bollocks, you are so pro partion and pro turkey it is unbelievable. Democratic, yes only YOU can have your say and no one else. Notwithstanding that, you are even shouting for the most undemocratic system for us worldwide. You tell us where on this planet 18% of the population have 50% power share AND 37% of the invaded country???

Well, with those credentials, you know very well what to do with them.

@Oracle

I beg you, do not put me in the same category as that piece of crap. I am nothing like him. He is an arroagant, self centred bigot and as I said before a danger to our cause.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:01 pm
by Bananiot
I never started this boomerang, go back and see who the real culprits are.

Your cause my foot B25! Was that plural, you and oracle?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:05 pm
by Bananiot
Tell us Talikser, how would we achieve this unitary state you aspire. Give as your proposed methodology of how to go about it. Try to convince us that it can be done.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:06 pm
by B25
Bananiot wrote:I never started this boomerang, go back and see who the real culprits are.

Your cause my foot B25! Was that plural, you and oracle?


You wish, 76% of the voters to start with!

I guess they don't count for you, facist barstartds a??

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:19 pm
by Bananiot
What are you talking about? You must be real thick. Papadopoulos who represented all the rejectionists, came third in the last elections and he became the only president who failed to qualify for the final round in the history of the RoC. He also often boasted of having 76% of the people.

What a moron!

PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:01 am
by boomerang
Bananiot wrote:I never started this boomerang, go back and see who the real culprits are.


ela re bananiot sousta mou ta lio giati theloun ksisma... :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:10 am
by Bananiot
Did oracle instruct you to say this?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:46 am
by Talisker
Bananiot wrote:Tell us Talikser, how would we achieve this unitary state you aspire. Give as your proposed methodology of how to go about it. Try to convince us that it can be done.

I have an answer but it is idealistic. I don't see the rush. The ultimate aim MUST BE one man one vote democracy, otherwise Cyprus will be at odds with all of Europe, and it is an EU member state, and much of the rest of the world. Therefore, realistically in my view, any Cypriot who does not aspire to such a democratic system does not belong to modern, free Europe. If this is the agreed aim then the question is how to bring it about. Of course, this is simplistic - TCs need to realise that they face a better future in a reunified, democratic Cyprus than they do in the unrecognised, illegitimate and illegal, occupied and stolen, part of Cyprus. Do they want to become Turks (because that is their destiny unless they reunite) or do they want to become fully-fledged Europeans within a united Cyprus? All of this requires forward, and not backward, thinking because all parties have made mistakes in the past. In my opinion the RoC government should be encouraging TCs to come south, incentivise with guarantees of safety and grants to restore properties and start businesses (especially jointly with GCs). I put some of these ideas forward in the thread 'Demographic change for reunification' (http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=27881). The idea would be that TCs would, in time, see that it is possible to live safely and prosperously with GCs in the south, that the demographics in the north would be altered as TCs come south to the better future that is possible there for the coming generations. The other consequences of such a policy are discussed in the thread. Face it - GCs will never be happy with losing part of their island, including huge amounts of privately owned property, to an illegal, brutal invasion by Turkey. The upcoming generations of TCs will look across to the south, see the opportunities there (including the chance to proudly be a legitimised citizen of a recognised nation state), and move there eventually anyway if they have any ambition and drive. The illegal occupation, and supposed protection of decreasing numbers of TCs, by the Turkish military will become even more of an embarrassment and obstacle to Turkish aspirations for EU membership or other recognition and acceptance within the wider world. Therefore, the RoC government needs a long-term strategy for reintegration, leading to trust and prosperity, and removing any thoughts of partition.