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Re: A humble proposal
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Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:54 amby Jerry
Sotos, you confuse two things. Most of the people you refer to as “wanabbees” want justice for Cypriots, they don’t necessarily want to be Cypriot. Many have not even bothered to take dual nationality.
You dismiss our support as if it was of no importance, you need all the help you can get. Besides why would anyone want to be Cypriot, are you so superior, are you the master race, is Cyprus the centre of the Universe?
Re: A humble proposal
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Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:51 pmby GreekIslandGirl
It's one thing to support Cypriots' efforts to remove the Turkish occupation; but it's another thing to say it's on condition that the Cypriot majority give up their cultural identity and alliance with their EU-sister state, Greece.
Re: A humble proposal
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Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:07 pmby Sotos
Jerry wrote:Sotos, you confuse two things. Most of the people you refer to as “wanabbees” want justice for Cypriots, they don’t necessarily want to be Cypriot. Many have not even bothered to take dual nationality.
You dismiss our support as if it was of no importance, you need all the help you can get. Besides why would anyone want to be Cypriot, are you so superior, are you the master race, is Cyprus the centre of the Universe?
I am not the one who started talking about "wanabbees" in this forum
"Why would anyone want to be Cypriot?" I don't know... ask Me Ed. What I know is that I am Cypriot and I am Greek and I don't want to be anything else!! We appreciate all the support... but if you are making us to choose between Greece and some people whose parents were Greek Cypriots, themselves say they are not Greek and their children will say they are not Cypriot ... then what do you think we will choose?
Re: A humble proposal
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Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:20 pmby DrCyprus
To be happy about being a Greek Cypriot, to celebrate your Greek heritage (which you and your forefathers have been safeguarding for hundreds of centuries through language and culture), and to educate yourself about your roots and history and your island's past and traditions are not only your rights, but also your solemn obligation as a Cypriot.
To choose to remain uninformed and ignorant on the majority of Cypriot history between 1192 and 1950. To fill yourself with unfounded pride, and somehow manage to convince yourself that you are the light of the world and your Turkish Cypriot brother is of an inferior culture (whilst being so ignorant as to not open one book about Ottoman culture) is twisted, dark, sickening, and exactly what Turkey wants.
Re: A humble proposal
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Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:39 pmby GreekIslandGirl
Are all cultures equally civilized?
Are all cultures equally democratic?
Re: A humble proposal
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Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:45 pmby kurupetos
Fingunt se medicos quivis idiota, sacerdos, Judæus, monachus, histrio, rasor, anus.
Re: A humble proposal
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:41 amby DrCyprus
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Are all cultures equally civilized?
Are all cultures equally democratic?
I'll give you the honour of answering your own questions.
Re: A humble proposal
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:27 amby Oceanside50
repulsewarrior wrote:GreekIslandGirl wrote:DrCyprus wrote:Why should a random Giannis allow themselves to feel satiated and satisfied and proud about the fact that our ancient forefathers achieved something magnificent, when his greatest achievement in life was to buy a better car than his neighbour.
Stop the hate.
Let others be ...
let others be, what?? better people because the take bold steps to embrace change for the better?
...i am not so proud of being Greek because "Greeks" choose to sustain an elite which resists the changes they must make in themselves toward a betterment that is Universal; in my opinion, very unGreek.
...i hope Greeks will realise that a Forum for their Expression exists as a Constituency, that this is the step which seperates, in Cyprus, the State from looking at its Citizens as a vast majority being "Greeks" because their adversary as the debate is now framed are "Turks", focusing instead on Cyprus itself, toward its credibility as a Sovereign Representative without distinction or discrimination. if there was a Greek Constituency, recognition for other Constituencies is possible by Territorial Jurisdictions, with an equal opportunity to sustain their distinctions as people. (surely you'll agree that Greek Cypriots will be held in high esteem for this). Cypriots need to fly their Flag because it identifies a betterment to the Principals, as Human Beings, they live by. Nation/State, Person/Individual, Liberty/Freedom: these are central to a Bicommunal way of life; it is not a "Greek"/"not Greek" issue, and as Cypriots this is the commitment we have taken, to define BBF to the benefit of all Mankind.
This a very easy concept it goes like this:
Gc state= constituent state
Tc state=constituent state
Federal government supersedes both states in certain aspects such as: foreign trade, interstate trade, federal taxes...foreign diplomacy/ foreign ministry
The tc state would consist of cantons throughout cyprus.
Re: A humble proposal
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:23 pmby kurupetos
Oceanside50 wrote:repulsewarrior wrote:GreekIslandGirl wrote:DrCyprus wrote:Why should a random Giannis allow themselves to feel satiated and satisfied and proud about the fact that our ancient forefathers achieved something magnificent, when his greatest achievement in life was to buy a better car than his neighbour.
Stop the hate.
Let others be ...
let others be, what?? better people because the take bold steps to embrace change for the better?
...i am not so proud of being Greek because "Greeks" choose to sustain an elite which resists the changes they must make in themselves toward a betterment that is Universal; in my opinion, very unGreek.
...i hope Greeks will realise that a Forum for their Expression exists as a Constituency, that this is the step which seperates, in Cyprus, the State from looking at its Citizens as a vast majority being "Greeks" because their adversary as the debate is now framed are "Turks", focusing instead on Cyprus itself, toward its credibility as a Sovereign Representative without distinction or discrimination. if there was a Greek Constituency, recognition for other Constituencies is possible by Territorial Jurisdictions, with an equal opportunity to sustain their distinctions as people. (surely you'll agree that Greek Cypriots will be held in high esteem for this). Cypriots need to fly their Flag because it identifies a betterment to the Principals, as Human Beings, they live by. Nation/State, Person/Individual, Liberty/Freedom: these are central to a Bicommunal way of life; it is not a "Greek"/"not Greek" issue, and as Cypriots this is the commitment we have taken, to define BBF to the benefit of all Mankind.
This a very easy concept it goes like this:
Gc state= constituent state
Tc state=constituent state
Federal government supersedes both states in certain aspects such as: foreign trade, interstate trade, federal taxes...foreign diplomacy/ foreign ministry
The tc state would consist of cantons throughout cyprus.
That's still a partitionist solution and the majority of the GC people won't accept it.
Re: A humble proposal
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Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:54 pmby Lordo
who cares what gcs think.
