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That's right, you keep kissing the arses of TCs wherever possible. Wink

G.W.Bush Junior : you are either with us or against us.

I know there economy has picked up recently. It was not going to stay where it was forever. But future success depends on trade embargos being lifted, joining the EU etc. If this does not happen they they will never be as prosperous as us.

could you give us a prediction of how worse their economy will be till the end of 2006? we ll write it down, and check it?

the embargos exist since 1983.
but, they are picking up only since the last two years.
why would that be?

G.W.Bush Junior : you are either with us or against us.

And....... You keep repeating this and I'm waiting for your point.

could you give us a prediction of how worse their economy will be till the end of 2006? we ll write it down, and check it?

the embargos exist since 1983.
but, they are picking up only since the last two years.
why would that be?

If you want me to give you history and economic lessons that is fine but I charge

Some of the restrictions on the 'TRNC' have clearly been eased. But, they can only be eased so much. A solution is needed to lift the restrictions altogether. And unless this happens, they will not be as prosperous as the south.

bg-turk, what about if your occupation pals start to hand over the land and property that they have stolen from the g/cypriots, or is your puppet state you belive in just founded on theft and injustice ?

They will be Greek Cypriots living in a new Turkish Cypriot state. How can you say they will not be or feel like foreigners?

Would you accept the opposite? TCs becoming a minority in a Greek Cypriot state?

It is sad and self defeating to talk of Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot states. This assumes that the RoC is GC and the "TRNC" is TC . This may be the current reality but Cyprus has not yet sold away its entitlement to be unified. And there are some positive things on the horizon including Turkey's EU application. The politicians may not agree but the future could still be a unified Cyprus ..... but the people need a strong vision and sense of BELIEF. In fact, the entire Cyprus Problem is prolonged by lack of belief.

I am Greek and I have no objection in principle to living in a foreign state - in Europe, for example. Europe and USA is full of minorities but they do not insist on their own state nor unequal voting rights. They largely appreciate their new homelands and their democratic and human rights principles.

No Cypriot needs or deserves to be a foreign Cypriot on their own island. But when is one a foreigner? When there is one state or two? A sense of foreigness is a state of mind. One that is created by isolation and often by people with the wrong interest. Cypriots still have a collective identity. Years of Turkish occupation could not take away that. And this sense of identity can be repaired, reinforced and adapted to the modern age.

The island has a collective identity, history and a potential. That potential relies on a sense of VISION and the POWER of BELIEF - that is what we are lacking now thanks to our politicians.

Many step could be taken. Advantage can and must be taken of being part of the EU - above all else that means embracing EU principles or human rights and democracy. It also of course means the conditional access of Turkey.

It is in fact a myth that partition is "practical" as some would have us believe. I could write a long list of benefits of unification as opposed to unification. Some people have already closed their eyes to the "practical" opportunities (yes, even financial ones!!!) of reunification.

There is no practical tangible obstacle that can prevent reunification bar 35000 guns to our heads. The only obstacle is created by a self fulfilling collective mindset which is saying "we are heading toward partition".

This has been allowed to stray thanks to pressure from those with dubious interests. That mindset which was so masterfully engineered by the politicians and their propaganda machines.

Some others of us are afraid of reunification - even though partition allows Turkey to permanently maintain its military presence on the island. Can we rediscover our daring spirit, return to the grand vision and dare to believe?

Lets stop deluding ourselves.

Greeks and Turks don't get along especially when ruled by each other.

Its tolerable in say London or another Western city as we are both ruled by non-Turkish, non-Greek law and their isn't an agenda against us.

Greek rule will be prejeduce against Turks and vica-versa, Turks arn't better than Greeks, Greeks arn't better than Turks, were both as bad as each other and when it come's down to it, if we feel powerfull enough we will try to rule and oppress one-another that's the reality.

So why do some of you insist on creating just another blood-bath.

Solve the situation.

KKTC AND GREEK CYPRUS

Two separate states, end of problems, end of story.

Once this is accepted by both sides then they can move towards normalisation.

Those who were affected and had losses can apply to each other's courts get their compensation and whatever else they want.

We can all be saved from another ticking time-bomb and live happily in our states ruled and governed by our own people for our people.

Its the future anyway, get used to it.

Your children will come on holiday to my country

Peace

Lala_Mustafa_Pasha wrote:Lets stop deluding ourselves.

Greeks and Turks don't get along especially when ruled by each other.

Its tolerable in say London or another Western city as we are both ruled by non-Turkish, non-Greek law and their isn't an agenda against us.

Greek rule will be prejeduce against Turks and vica-versa, Turks arn't better than Greeks, Greeks arn't better than Turks, were both as bad as each other and when it come's down to it, if we feel powerfull enough we will try to rule and oppress one-another that's the reality.

So why do some of you insist on creating just another blood-bath.

Solve the situation.

KKTC AND GREEK CYPRUS

Two separate states, end of problems, end of story.

Once this is accepted by both sides then they can move towards normalisation.

Those who were affected and had losses can apply to each other's courts get their compensation and whatever else they want.

We can all be saved from another ticking time-bomb and live happily in our states ruled and governed by our own people for our people.

Its the future anyway, get used to it.

Your children will come on holiday to my country

Peace

Y dont u feck off

peace

p.s. haha greeks are NOTHING like turks

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Cadaunavera,

Is that a good thing, or a bad thing ???

a very very good thing

cadaunovera wrote:a very very good thing

Actually, if they kept their mouths shut, you can't tell them apart, so you may actually will be mistaken for a Turk. Not much you can do really, except keep your mouth open all day long. !!!

Greeks dont look like Turks.I guess u never saw a Greek b4 ,if u did u need to have ur eyes checked.

And I wasnt talking about the looks anw.

Define Turks : uncivilized,barbarians,criminals,smelly bast@rds who did SO many horrible things in the world and they keep doing without giving a feck about human rights.

And of course if u tell someone those words and ask him about who they think u talking about,they wont say Greeks will they?Thats why Greeks are nothing like Turks.