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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:48 am
by miltiades
Theresa , the suicide maniacs will not stop , they have an agenda which is the destruction of the Western world . 9/11 was before Afganistan , before Iraq . These savages , and I call them that because this is what exactly they are , are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that their perverted ideology will spread throughout the world , and that by comminting these despicable crimes are not only doing Gods work but are also securing a place in heaven. An individual who values death more than life is a corrupt and degenerate person.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:52 am
by miltiades
Cypezokyli , I meant all that I stated . Which part of my post do you find unaccepatable.
And yes I agree with the Iraq invasion .

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:12 pm
by Socrates
They are not only a threat to the western world they are a big problem and a threat for their own world.

Back in Middle Ages and before and after were Christians convinced what if they kill many Muslims or heretics will get a ticket on heaven.

This heaven and hell bullshit and this madness is the human biggest mass illness ever.

The humanity had suffered for 2000 years from this virus and still is.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:32 pm
by miltiades
Well said Godson !!
Socrates wrote:
""This heaven and hell bullshit and this madness is the human biggest mass illness ever.

The humanity had suffered for 2000 years from this virus and still is. ""

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:53 pm
by Socrates
This matter is directly connected with the Cyprus problem since some people believes what Europe doesn’t want Turkey as member. This is absolutely wrong.

Almost everyone knows what Turkey is the ticket to civilize the eastern world.

Cyprus problem was always in the center of this civilization conflict

And even some mad man (mad but smart Makarios) from the past has pointed this issue and after the independence of the 60 agreement he said what Cyprus is the bridge between east and west world.

Makarios were more eastern “politician” and haven’t anything to do with the western standards and he and we was a big problem for the humanity because he was stack in Christian madness and he develop a theocratical system as he him self admitted.

I can write more for the past but the today is more important.

And today some people believe what our problem (Cyprus) is the power balance and what this may change.

This is a power balance issue because Turkey was always the police and the balance power between the two civilizations.

The religion problem in Turkey is far less than the rest of the Muslims and they are far more close to the western standards from the rest.

Even if the power balance will chance (something like that is ridiculous to wish) then some one else will support Turkey like the USSR did and all the Europeans are ready to take their place.

The only way to have this dream situation is to wish what eventually the Taliban’s will destroy the world and they will be the leaders.

If something like that will happens then Cyprus will be a minus issue and the Cypriot women’s will be in some harem and the RoC will be the property of some mad Taliban.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:10 pm
by Natty
I think Europes main problem with Turkey joining the EU, is the Human Rights record...

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:54 pm
by cypezokyli
my last question in this topic to you miltiades :
do you also justify the current israeli actions ?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:10 pm
by Socrates
Israel(Judaism) is the root of the madness.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:19 pm
by miltiades
cypezokyli , I can not understand that an intelligent and well educated man like yourself would ask me such ridiculous questions.
I oppose vehemently all violence against the innocent , regardless whether the perpetrators are Jews , G/Cs T/Cs Christian fanatics or Muslim fanatics. These people are vermin.
Why is it that perfectly reasonable people rush to offer explanations as to the reasons these common murderers commit these hideous crimes against innocent people .There are no known instances in the history of our world where a sect of people committed such vile acts in the perverted belief that they were doing god's work.I supported , and still do the right of the Palestinians to self determination in their own state.
The fanatics are insisting with the total destruction of Israel , and that just ain't going to happen. Iran will be taken care of sooner or later ,.and the Palestinians as well as the Israelis will carry on hating and killing each other.
Many British people are against their governments foreign policy in Iran and Afghanistan , but only the fucking lunatic fanatics blow them selves up along with innocent people, and have the audacity to make a spectacle of them selves in videos bragging as to how brave they are in valuing death more than we value life. There is no justification in a civilized world for such horrific acts, and no analogies can be drawn.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:06 pm
by cypezokyli
our disagreement miltiades is that you overemphasize the wrong doings of only one side , of one period of time, one religion (or religion as ideology).
vile acts have been part of the human history , for thousand of years irrespective of ideologies.
they arenot just constraint to the iraqi who blows himself up , but also to the american soldier who acts like a barbarian in quantanamo.

its the ovreempisization of the wrongdoings of one side that disturbs me. it might be that , this not what you believe , but thats the conclusion that i draw from your postings