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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:44 pm
by Lordo
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I think the ball is now in your court to explain how these pretty objects came about from an explosion given that explosions are DESTRUCTORS (<-- to use a programming term) and not CONSTRUCTORS.


There are many examples were apparently destructive initial forces then lead to emergence of life. For example, volcanoes erupt and burn and destroy everything in the path of the lava flow. Then eventually, bacteria start to multiply and seedlings grow and before long a whole ecosystem has arisen - after what was initially *destructive*.

Same with forests fires. They destroy and then things can grow.

Plus, our Sun is a great big burning ball of fire which by your assumption would be *destructive*. But we can survive a certain distance away. So we coexist with a *destructive* force, more than coexist - depend on!

dont confuse the boy give him straight. it is not the case that we survive, not even we depend, the fact is we cannot survive without those explosions. can you imagine the most chaotic activity of explosion on the sun occuring randomly gives us the beautiful sunshine we so much need.

like i said gr back to primary school boy.

i know i know, god has set a timer for each section of the sun to explode in sequence. how can the sun do what it does woithout god designing it. i am convinced by your arguments gr. you are right god designed you. thats why you are so furqed boy.

Re: Checkmate, Atheists

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:49 pm
by Lordo
and another thing. i hate the way god keeps sending these meteors like balls of fire causing extinctions on earth and helping evolution. did i spell evolution ok.

balls of fire indeed.

i can feel a song coming on. a very christan and religous man liked very young girls too boot


Re: Checkmate, Atheists

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:16 pm
by Get Real!
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I think the ball is now in your court to explain how these pretty objects came about from an explosion given that explosions are DESTRUCTORS (<-- to use a programming term) and not CONSTRUCTORS.


There are many examples were apparently destructive initial forces then lead to emergence of life. For example, volcanoes erupt and burn and destroy everything in the path of the lava flow. Then eventually, bacteria start to multiply and seedlings grow and before long a whole ecosystem has arisen - after what was initially *destructive*.

Same with forests fires. They destroy and then things can grow.

Plus, our Sun is a great big burning ball of fire which by your assumption would be *destructive*. But we can survive a certain distance away. So we coexist with a *destructive* force, more than coexist - depend on!

I didn't say "destructive initial forces" but EXPLOSIONS. And not just any explosions but the VERY FIRST "big bang".

You won't find an established mother Earth to help you here I'm afraid.

Oh and if the sun was to explode you wouldn't survive it.

Re: Checkmate, Atheists

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:10 pm
by T_C
I suppose there's no way of really arguing a creator exist, however I still don't find the atheist perspective credible. Not in the slightest.

When we're talking of God we're not thinking of the possibility of a REAL God, only within the boundaries of ones depicted in religion. Atheist imagination isn't going past that and there are too many possibilities that are overlooked.

If however you can consider a God (completely separate from the universe) and within the boundaries of science...the possibility becomes more likely than such a significant "output" (i.e universe, existence) arising from the randomness of a random event.

Something functioning came out of an event not unlike a reaction! It works! What more proof do you need?!? :? :lol:

Re: Checkmate, Atheists

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:05 pm
by Lordo
mass is proprtional to energy. mass can be converted to energy and energy can be converted to mass. the idea of a big bang theory from nothing does not sound right either but sooner or later we shall get to the bottom of this as to how it all begin. as to going by what people thought 2000 years ago is beyond laughable.

as to atheist beliefs, there is no such thing. they believe in science and solving the puzzle in a scientific way. we are a lot closer to the how the universe was formed now then we were 2000 years ago thats for sure.

Re: Checkmate, Atheists

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:19 pm
by Get Real!
Lordo wrote:...they believe in science and solving the puzzle in a scientific way.

So in the eventuality that God *does* exist, how is Man’s science going to prove it? :lol:

Re: Checkmate, Atheists

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:48 pm
by Lordo
Get Real! wrote:
Lordo wrote:...they believe in science and solving the puzzle in a scientific way.

So in the eventuality that God *does* exist, how is Man’s science going to prove it? :lol:

dont be stupid god does not exist and there is no need to prove it never mind how.

Re: Checkmate, Atheists

PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 11:21 pm
by Get Real!
Lordo wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Lordo wrote:...they believe in science and solving the puzzle in a scientific way.

So in the eventuality that God *does* exist, how is Man’s science going to prove it? :lol:

dont be stupid god does not exist and there is no need to prove it never mind how.

Ah well… it looks like he’ll just bitch-slap you when the time comes.

Re: Checkmate, Atheists

PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:00 am
by kurupetos
Lordo wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Lordo wrote:...they believe in science and solving the puzzle in a scientific way.

So in the eventuality that God *does* exist, how is Man’s science going to prove it? :lol:

dont be stupid god does not exist and there is no need to prove it never mind how.

If you don't have parents then there is no God.

Re: Checkmate, Atheists

PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:37 am
by miltiades
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If you don't have parents then there is no God.[/quote]
I don't have parents !!! Both passed away long ago !!