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Re: Turkish 101 for all...

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 10:50 pm
by B25
Amen to that.

Re: Turkish 101 for all...

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 10:54 pm
by Sotos
Cyprus for me should be allowed to evolve into the democratic state to which it has been denied before. When something is right, like democracy and individual human rights, it's not up for dilution to suit some


And from our discussion here you concluded that me, erolz and Pyrpolizer came to an agreement that such thing shouldn't happen??

To me it is obvious that your issues with erolz are personal... I don't blame just you for this as he also came after you several times. You don't like him and he doesn't like you. Our discussion here has nothing to do with that.

Re: Turkish 101 for all...

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 11:48 pm
by repulsewarrior
...if the Republic exists through Constitutional reform, it will be acceptable. If the condition is a "new" Cyprus, it does not bode well for any of us; Cypriots, or the rest of the world.

If it is "over" for Cyprus, it is "over" for Turkey. Turkey will not survive, if Cyprus cannot survive.

...it is not over until it is over.

Re: Turkish 101 for all...

PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 7:00 pm
by Pyrpolizer
Ever since I became 20 yo I realized that we are not living in a Democracy.
We are living in an Oligarchy.

Re: Turkish 101 for all...

PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 7:16 pm
by GreekIslandGirl
Pyrpolizer wrote:Ever since I became 20 yo I realized that we are not living in a Democracy.
We are living in an Oligarchy.


Yes, we are governed by a few - but a few that we generally vote for in a democracy.

- What is wrong is to give a disproportionate power base to (even) fewer or to pre-select who can be President and who has to be Vice President, to make a reservation!

Re: Turkish 101 for all...

PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 7:43 pm
by Sotos
Pyrpolizer wrote:Ever since I became 20 yo I realized that we are not living in a Democracy.
We are living in an Oligarchy.


In Cyprus our system is quite democratic, even though it is now less so since they raised the threshold to 5% to enter the parliament. Take Elam as an example, whose leadership are not politicians and they had nothing to do with the establishment and yet they managed to gain seats in the parliament.

Beyond that, the problem is not the system, but the people themselves. In Cyprus many people think of "their" parties like football teams, and always vote for the same party without much thought, and often their only criteria is to vote somebody with whom they have "meso" / connections.