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After 36 years in the EU, the UK still LOVES paying fines!

Postby Get Real! » Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:20 pm

After 36 years in the EU, the UK still LOVES paying fines!

UK faces EU fines over reliance on landfill

“The UK faces being hit by massive EU fines over its continued reliance on landfill sites for rubbish with the taxpayer picking up the bill.

The Government has been slammed by MPs for failing to respond quickly enough to an EU directive which set tough targets on the amount of waste that can be sent to landfill.”


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthn ... dfill.html

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Department allows £300m for EU fines

“Britain has set aside nearly £300m to cover fines and potential fines from Brussels over irregularities in monitoring European regional aid.

The Department for Communities and Local Government reveals in its annual report that it has made "repayments" of £40m in the last year and made contingent liabilities of up to £284m. This marks a rise of £74m from earlier in the year when officials were forced to admit the scale of the problem.”


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cf47127e-8b8d ... ck_check=1

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EU fines for exceeding milk quota

“The European Commission has issued €364m in fines after nine member states exceeded their milk quotas for the year up to 31 March this year.
The states - Belgium, Denmark, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Spain and Austria - accounted for a combined overrun of one million tonnes.”


http://www.foodnavigator.com/Financial- ... milk-quota

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UK risks fines over EU bathing water law

http://www.endseurope.com/19

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EU to reprimand UK spending

“BRUSSELS - The European Commission is set to trigger legal action against the UK over an excessive budget deficit, pressing London to cut the deficit below the EU's 3 percent of GDP limit by March next year.

But the legal action would amount to no more than a public reprimand as EU fines in this area are limited to eurozone members.”


http://euobserver.com/?aid=20650&rk=1

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EU fines glassmakers €487m for cartel

“EU antitrust regulators today fined glass makers Asahi, Guardian, Pilkington and Saint-Gobain €487m for running an illegal price fixing cartel.

The European Commission accused the companies of conspiring to coordinate price hikes and taking other actions to control prices for flat glass used in construction through illegal meetings from early 2004 to early 2005.

The four companies hold a combined 80% share of the European flat glass market, which was worth €1.7 billion in 2004, according to the European Commission.”


http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/1128/glass.html?rss

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NB: This thread is dedicated to Jimbo (who runs the brit-ignoramous.com forum) who laughed at Cyprus being fined by the EU for various offences.

The Badger/Fox debacle is in a dedicated "British cruelty to animals" thread which I need to find.

Regards, Unkie GR! :D
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Re: After 36 years in the EU, the UK still LOVES paying fine

Postby EPSILON » Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:26 pm

Get Real! wrote:After 36 years in the EU, the UK still LOVES paying fines!

UK faces EU fines over reliance on landfill

“The UK faces being hit by massive EU fines over its continued reliance on landfill sites for rubbish with the taxpayer picking up the bill.

The Government has been slammed by MPs for failing to respond quickly enough to an EU directive which set tough targets on the amount of waste that can be sent to landfill.”


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthn ... dfill.html

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Department allows £300m for EU fines

“Britain has set aside nearly £300m to cover fines and potential fines from Brussels over irregularities in monitoring European regional aid.

The Department for Communities and Local Government reveals in its annual report that it has made "repayments" of £40m in the last year and made contingent liabilities of up to £284m. This marks a rise of £74m from earlier in the year when officials were forced to admit the scale of the problem.”


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cf47127e-8b8d ... ck_check=1

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EU fines for exceeding milk quota

“The European Commission has issued €364m in fines after nine member states exceeded their milk quotas for the year up to 31 March this year.
The states - Belgium, Denmark, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Spain and Austria - accounted for a combined overrun of one million tonnes.”


http://www.foodnavigator.com/Financial- ... milk-quota

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UK risks fines over EU bathing water law

http://www.endseurope.com/19

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EU to reprimand UK spending

“BRUSSELS - The European Commission is set to trigger legal action against the UK over an excessive budget deficit, pressing London to cut the deficit below the EU's 3 percent of GDP limit by March next year.

But the legal action would amount to no more than a public reprimand as EU fines in this area are limited to eurozone members.”


http://euobserver.com/?aid=20650&rk=1

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EU fines glassmakers €487m for cartel

“EU antitrust regulators today fined glass makers Asahi, Guardian, Pilkington and Saint-Gobain €487m for running an illegal price fixing cartel.

The European Commission accused the companies of conspiring to coordinate price hikes and taking other actions to control prices for flat glass used in construction through illegal meetings from early 2004 to early 2005.

The four companies hold a combined 80% share of the European flat glass market, which was worth €1.7 billion in 2004, according to the European Commission.”


http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/1128/glass.html?rss

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NB: This thread is dedicated to Jimbo (who runs the brit-ignoramous.com forum) who laughed at Cyprus being fined by the EU for various offences.

The Badger/Fox debacle is in a dedicated "British cruelty to animals" thread which I need to find.

Regards, Unkie GR! :D


All the " EXPERIENCED" EU members prefer the fines than applying EU policies which ae much more expensive!!! :arrow:
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Re: After 36 years in the EU, the UK still LOVES paying fine

Postby AWE » Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:42 pm

Get Real! wrote:After 36 years in the EU, the UK still LOVES paying fines!

UK faces EU fines over reliance on landfill

“The UK faces being hit by massive EU fines over its continued reliance on landfill sites for rubbish with the taxpayer picking up the bill.

The Government has been slammed by MPs for failing to respond quickly enough to an EU directive which set tough targets on the amount of waste that can be sent to landfill.”


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthn ... dfill.html

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Department allows £300m for EU fines

“Britain has set aside nearly £300m to cover fines and potential fines from Brussels over irregularities in monitoring European regional aid.

The Department for Communities and Local Government reveals in its annual report that it has made "repayments" of £40m in the last year and made contingent liabilities of up to £284m. This marks a rise of £74m from earlier in the year when officials were forced to admit the scale of the problem.”


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cf47127e-8b8d ... ck_check=1

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EU fines for exceeding milk quota

“The European Commission has issued €364m in fines after nine member states exceeded their milk quotas for the year up to 31 March this year.
The states - Belgium, Denmark, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Spain and Austria - accounted for a combined overrun of one million tonnes.”


http://www.foodnavigator.com/Financial- ... milk-quota

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UK risks fines over EU bathing water law

http://www.endseurope.com/19

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EU to reprimand UK spending

“BRUSSELS - The European Commission is set to trigger legal action against the UK over an excessive budget deficit, pressing London to cut the deficit below the EU's 3 percent of GDP limit by March next year.

But the legal action would amount to no more than a public reprimand as EU fines in this area are limited to eurozone members.”


http://euobserver.com/?aid=20650&rk=1

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EU fines glassmakers €487m for cartel

“EU antitrust regulators today fined glass makers Asahi, Guardian, Pilkington and Saint-Gobain €487m for running an illegal price fixing cartel.

The European Commission accused the companies of conspiring to coordinate price hikes and taking other actions to control prices for flat glass used in construction through illegal meetings from early 2004 to early 2005.

The four companies hold a combined 80% share of the European flat glass market, which was worth €1.7 billion in 2004, according to the European Commission.”


http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/1128/glass.html?rss

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NB: This thread is dedicated to Jimbo (who runs the brit-ignoramous.com forum) who laughed at Cyprus being fined by the EU for various offences.

The Badger/Fox debacle is in a dedicated "British cruelty to animals" thread which I need to find.

Regards, Unkie GR! :D


Oh Unkie,

Really this is clutching at at least 3 of 6 straws.

You can do better than that...

1, 2 & 4 OK but in 3 the UK is not mentioned in your blurb and if you look at the link is in fact suffering in underproduction to those countries mentioned, 5 is the Euro members telling the UK off for breaking EURO budget limits (not that it ever matters to France amongst others) - so when did the UK join the EURO? and 6 is commercial companies being fined so is Microsoft being fined by the EU the same as the EU fining it's member the USA?

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Re: After 36 years in the EU, the UK still LOVES paying fine

Postby JimB » Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:39 pm

AWE wrote:
Get Real! wrote:After 36 years in the EU, the UK still LOVES paying fines!

UK faces EU fines over reliance on landfill

“The UK faces being hit by massive EU fines over its continued reliance on landfill sites for rubbish with the taxpayer picking up the bill.

The Government has been slammed by MPs for failing to respond quickly enough to an EU directive which set tough targets on the amount of waste that can be sent to landfill.”


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthn ... dfill.html

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Department allows £300m for EU fines

“Britain has set aside nearly £300m to cover fines and potential fines from Brussels over irregularities in monitoring European regional aid.

The Department for Communities and Local Government reveals in its annual report that it has made "repayments" of £40m in the last year and made contingent liabilities of up to £284m. This marks a rise of £74m from earlier in the year when officials were forced to admit the scale of the problem.”


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cf47127e-8b8d ... ck_check=1

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EU fines for exceeding milk quota

“The European Commission has issued €364m in fines after nine member states exceeded their milk quotas for the year up to 31 March this year.
The states - Belgium, Denmark, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Spain and Austria - accounted for a combined overrun of one million tonnes.”


http://www.foodnavigator.com/Financial- ... milk-quota

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UK risks fines over EU bathing water law

http://www.endseurope.com/19

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EU to reprimand UK spending

“BRUSSELS - The European Commission is set to trigger legal action against the UK over an excessive budget deficit, pressing London to cut the deficit below the EU's 3 percent of GDP limit by March next year.

But the legal action would amount to no more than a public reprimand as EU fines in this area are limited to eurozone members.”


http://euobserver.com/?aid=20650&rk=1

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EU fines glassmakers €487m for cartel

“EU antitrust regulators today fined glass makers Asahi, Guardian, Pilkington and Saint-Gobain €487m for running an illegal price fixing cartel.

The European Commission accused the companies of conspiring to coordinate price hikes and taking other actions to control prices for flat glass used in construction through illegal meetings from early 2004 to early 2005.

The four companies hold a combined 80% share of the European flat glass market, which was worth €1.7 billion in 2004, according to the European Commission.”


http://www.rte.ie/business/2007/1128/glass.html?rss

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


NB: This thread is dedicated to Jimbo (who runs the brit-ignoramous.com forum) who laughed at Cyprus being fined by the EU for various offences.

The Badger/Fox debacle is in a dedicated "British cruelty to animals" thread which I need to find.

Regards, Unkie GR! :D


Oh Unkie,

Really this is clutching at at least 3 of 6 straws.

You can do better than that...

1, 2 & 4 OK but in 3 the UK is not mentioned in your blurb and if you look at the link is in fact suffering in underproduction to those countries mentioned, 5 is the Euro members telling the UK off for breaking EURO budget limits (not that it ever matters to France amongst others) - so when did the UK join the EURO? and 6 is commercial companies being fined so is Microsoft being fined by the EU the same as the EU fining it's member the USA?

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GR flattered that you attempted to rise to the challenge. But you really shouldn't of bothered - your embarrassing yourself by this hastily hashed together set of clippings.

Let's have a look at 1 shall we. Article from the Telegraph dated the 30th October 2007 stating that the uk MAY face fines. Not that it HAS paid a fine.

2. Article from the FT. At least this ones recent.

Department allows £300m for EU fines

By Jim Pickard

Published: August 18 2009 03:00 | Last updated: August 18 2009 03:00

Britain has set aside nearly £300m to cover fines and potential fines from Brussels over irregularities in monitoring European regional aid.

The Department for Communities and Local Government reveals in its annual report that it has made "repayments" of £40m in the last year and made contingent liabilities of up to £284m. This marks a rise of £74m from earlier in the year when officials were forced to admit the scale of the problem.

Note the use of the words ALLOWS, SET ASIDE, POTENTIAL and REPAYMENTS.

The first three would indicate a PROVISION which is a matter of prudence for accounting purposes NOT an actual payment. A repayment is not a fine. I haven't logged on to see what the fuss is all about but it would appear to be related to an administrative error or oversight as opposed to a breach of law.

3. A reference to a 2005 article where the French were trying to make a point over the CAP scheme by trying to bully the Brits. They didn't succeed.

4. A one liner dated the 11th January 2000 from that well known source ENDSEUROPE.COM :roll: 'UK risks fines over EU bathing water law'. Did the UK get fined? Thinking of which, I haven't heard anything about the Limassol floater problem for a while .....

5. EUOBSERVER.COM article dated 10.1.06 which makes a case for sweet bugger all and didn't actually happen.

6. Irish news website RET article dated the 28th November 2007 about glassmakers being fined over an alleged cartel scheme. The key to this one is GLASSMAKERS. It's not the same as GOVERNMENT and they don't have any authority to act on behalf of a country. Clear cut case really. Crystal clear.

As far as laughing at Cyprus's predicament, far from it. I think you guy's are capable of so much more if you could only be bothered to take some responsibility and showed some respect to this island you profess to love.

I'm LMAO at the small minded, selfish views of some of the posters on the topic who have no problem ignoring international and local laws when it suits them but scream fowl the second they think they've been wronged.

Who are you guy's to decide that it's all right to indiscriminately trap and kill endangered species of birds and deprive the rest of the world the opportunity to see them?

Bad Cypriot 'hunters', bad Maltese 'hunters' ...... bad bad hunters.

You want to be treated with respect, start showing some.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:48 pm

You need not analyze the UK’s follies in this thread Jimbo, because it’s just a small and simple 10 minute sample of what could come your way if you insist on making one-sided bitchy posts against Cyprus while ignoring your homeland’s EU embarrassments!

Referring to your spiteful post at:
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus26436-10.html

So, don’t make me take you seriously Jimbo because you just wouldn’t survive my relentless UK torment! :)

Warningly yours, Unkie! :D
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Postby JimB » Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:42 pm

Get Real! wrote:You need not analyze the UK’s follies in this thread Jimbo, because it’s just a small and simple 10 minute sample of what could come your way if you insist on making one-sided bitchy posts against Cyprus while ignoring your homeland’s EU embarrassments!

Referring to your spiteful post at:
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus26436-10.html

So, don’t make me take you seriously Jimbo because you just wouldn’t survive my relentless UK torment! :)

Warningly yours, Unkie! :D


Don't patronise me old man. You had your opportunity and you blew it.

My post on that thread was a) relevant to the topic being discussed - illegal hunting and membership of the EU ('should the EU even have a say in Cyprus?), b) factual in content and c) able to withstand scrutiny. Can you say the same about yours???

As far as being spiteful is concerned I'm not the one who started an entirely separate thread with the sole intention of trying to belittle me. And I quote
'NB: This thread is dedicated to Jimbo (who runs the brit-ignoramous.com forum) who laughed at Cyprus being fined by the EU for various offences.'

I fear your words are a vague reflection of the man. Impotent and without substance or meaning.

Let's face it 'Unkie GR' your just pissed at the Narnia quip aren't you?

I'm off out for a pint with my mates.

Take it your going to stay in and try to come up with a witty response ....

:roll: [/quote]
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Postby Sotos » Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:08 pm

JimB you said a lot of nonsense in that post. Everything in these two paragraphs is nonsense.

As far as hunting is concerned I don't have a problem. Trapping however is another issue, lime sticks and nets aren't very sportsman like. Dehydration and a lingering painful death is the result of those methods.

Be a man and use a gun in your pursuit of food and sustenance for your family. Heaven knows, you guy's need all the practice with a firearm you can get (who can forget the sorry tale of the hunter and the dog last year?).


Injuring birds with a gun is just as painful and there is nothing "manly" or "sportsman like" with killing small animals that can not defend themselves with a gun or in another way. At least most people kill animals to eat them. If you enjoy killing animals and you think that can be a sport then you are worst than the people you accuse! Also Cypriots are world and Olympic champions with using that kind of firearms. So what you said is not factual in content and can withstand a lot of scrutiny ;)
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:16 pm

JimB wrote:
Get Real! wrote:You need not analyze the UK’s follies in this thread Jimbo, because it’s just a small and simple 10 minute sample of what could come your way if you insist on making one-sided bitchy posts against Cyprus while ignoring your homeland’s EU embarrassments!

Referring to your spiteful post at:
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus26436-10.html

So, don’t make me take you seriously Jimbo because you just wouldn’t survive my relentless UK torment! :)

Warningly yours, Unkie! :D


Don't patronise me old man. You had your opportunity and you blew it.

My post on that thread was a) relevant to the topic being discussed - illegal hunting and membership of the EU ('should the EU even have a say in Cyprus?), b) factual in content and c) able to withstand scrutiny. Can you say the same about yours???

As far as being spiteful is concerned I'm not the one who started an entirely separate thread with the sole intention of trying to belittle me. And I quote
'NB: This thread is dedicated to Jimbo (who runs the brit-ignoramous.com forum) who laughed at Cyprus being fined by the EU for various offences.'

I fear your words are a vague reflection of the man. Impotent and without substance or meaning.

Let's face it 'Unkie GR' your just pissed at the Narnia quip aren't you?

I'm off out for a pint with my mates.

Take it your going to stay in and try to come up with a witty response ....

:roll:

So you still think Cyprus has a monopoly on paying EU fines eh? :lol:

What about cruelty to animals? You think Cypriots have a monopoly in that too? Hmm let's see...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 316#497316


Let me know when you’re ready to move on to British Human rights abuses and War Crimes!

I’ll swiftly rub your nose in the dung where it belongs Jimbo… :lol:
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Postby JimB » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:21 pm

Get Real! wrote:
JimB wrote:
Get Real! wrote:You need not analyze the UK’s follies in this thread Jimbo, because it’s just a small and simple 10 minute sample of what could come your way if you insist on making one-sided bitchy posts against Cyprus while ignoring your homeland’s EU embarrassments!

Referring to your spiteful post at:
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus26436-10.html

So, don’t make me take you seriously Jimbo because you just wouldn’t survive my relentless UK torment! :)

Warningly yours, Unkie! :D


Don't patronise me old man. You had your opportunity and you blew it.

My post on that thread was a) relevant to the topic being discussed - illegal hunting and membership of the EU ('should the EU even have a say in Cyprus?), b) factual in content and c) able to withstand scrutiny. Can you say the same about yours???

As far as being spiteful is concerned I'm not the one who started an entirely separate thread with the sole intention of trying to belittle me. And I quote
'NB: This thread is dedicated to Jimbo (who runs the brit-ignoramous.com forum) who laughed at Cyprus being fined by the EU for various offences.'

I fear your words are a vague reflection of the man. Impotent and without substance or meaning.

Let's face it 'Unkie GR' your just pissed at the Narnia quip aren't you?

I'm off out for a pint with my mates.

Take it your going to stay in and try to come up with a witty response ....

:roll:

So you still think Cyprus has a monopoly on paying EU fines eh? :lol:

What about cruelty to animals? You think Cypriots have a monopoly in that too? Hmm let's see...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 316#497316


Let me know when you’re ready to move on to British Human rights abuses and War Crimes!

I’ll swiftly rub your nose in the dung where it belongs Jimbo… :lol:



Wow - even I'm feeling embarrassed for you :oops: !

You start a lame thread trying to peddle misinformation as fact and then you try to switch the topic (yet again) when your shown to be full of it.

Let's summarise how the new thread will play out and save everybody the time.

i) You post a load of links to reports of animal cruelty in the UK, Cyprus or where ever.

ii) I point of that the actions of an individual don't necessarily reflect the social conscience or morality of the country at large.

iii) You misunderstand the point entirely and go off on yet another tangent.

iv) I post some links to successful prosecutions and prison sentences handed down to said offenders and ask you to provide the same for Cyprus.

v) You rant a bit and try to be clever but still don't answer the question.

vi) I post some links to items referring to lack of police interest, dereliction of duty and malfeasance in public office for the Cypriot police. In short, the Cypriot police don't enforce the law of the land as they are institutionally ignorant. They think that they are above the law and can pick and choose the bits they want to enforce and enforce and turn a blind eye to anything that they don't like.

vii) Petty name calling from you continues to point where you say 'why don't you fk off home then?'.

viii) Nothing changes and you try to kid yourself that this is your forum and you alone can defend the Cypriot way of life.

Your living in the past old man.

The attitudes of your fellow country men and yourself in trying to defend the indefensible is slowly but surely choking your country to death.

Use your anger to better ends old man, ask more of your police and politicians.

Now go wipe your nose - think you've got a little something on it :shock:
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:47 pm

:shock: Oh no Jimbo… look! Someone has started a permanent…

“The British are committing War Crimes”

…thread for the sole purpose of rubbing your snotty British nose in the dirt on a daily basis! :D

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=26479

What will you do now? :cry:

You should’ve kept your stupid mouth shut eh? Image
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