Is the USA transfering its support away from Turkey to Iraq?
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| shahmaran wrote: |
Unfortunately in the legal world no one can stop us unless they illegally intervene by force which is never going to happen, Turkey has every right to protect herself just like everyone else and too bad that we are finding lots of supporters, the US cannot afford to get in our way this time buddy, if the US can fly half way across the globe to "protect her self" then we can definately move a few KMs across our borders, we have done it lots of times before.
I suggest you turn on your tv or buy a newspaper, or even more conveniently you can shove your head back up your arse and keep pretending that no one of this is happening and wait for your sad little bill to pass  |
You obviously dont watch American tv monkey boy or you would realise, that they are discussing how Turkey is buddying up to Syria and Iran and they cannot be deppended on. Me personaly I dont give a fuck if Turkey goes in to wipe out the PKK, yet the USA has to much money invested into this failed project. If Turkey enters without US consent the repruccosians will be severe. I dont believe its worth that risk. Sham, didnt Turkey do this during the 90's?? Obviously it didnt work then, so what would make you think it would work now??Also, why doesnt Turkey just build a barrier to prevent them from being able to cross?? |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:53 pm |
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I actually read papers from all around the world, i wouldn't exactly count on "Fox TV or CNN" to give me anything worthwhile and i suggest you do the same.
Turkey is planning to build a barrier similar to the ones of the Israelis and there is probably much deeper reasons for the US not wanting us to move in, investment is probably not their biggest worries at the moment, us finding the weapons that the US had "lost" in the hands of the dead PKK terrorists wouldn't have anything to do with it i bet, and god knows what more we will find that would tie them to the US once we get in there. However are you not surprised that America is not warning us, she is just asking us not to move in because the fucking Pesmerge and Barzani supporters will retaliate to defend their positions, so it will not be a very straight forward operation however if no one is going to do anything about the PKK then Turkey WILL and has every right to do so, and no one can stop us, in fact everyone will HAVE to support us since we are fighting an internationally recognized terrorist organization within our legal rights while helping the West fight their so called "terrorists", so why wouldn't anyone supports us, unless of course they are closely related to the PKK or seriously hypocritical 
I think Turkey should push a "either you are with us or against us" policy within the international community and not leave any hole to hide for these PKK animals other then the mountains and then wipe them out one by one like rats with the terrorists nightmare, helicopters!
And this DID work in the past genius, how do you think we have this new pet called Abdullah Ocalan rotting in his little island prison if it wasnt for us pushing everyone to cooperate?
The PKK attacks had stopped for a long time but now surprisingly they are finding the audacity to start attacking us while counting on the US, however the US has given them the boost to uprise and then left them to their fate within the hands of Saddam and his new Biological weapons before and it can very well happen again. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:59 pm |
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| ARMENIAN CYPRIOT wrote: |
Turkey doesnt need approval from the USA?? Nor did Iraq before invading Kuwait. The USA Has troops there, they didnt have any in Cyprus. Turkey wouldnt go against the USA on this because they dont have the balls. By the way if Turkey is stupid enough to follow through with its threats and throws the US out of there air base and severes ties with Isreal they will get skull fucked. The only thing Turkey is going to do is whine like little bitches, like they did during the 90s when my Armenian brethrean liberated 25% of Azerbijan. |
Only a retard would say that the USA will attack Turkey. Not only would such a move be extremely unpopular among Americans, but the US simply does not have the millitary capacity to do something like that.
The USA attacking Turkey, the only Muslim ally and a secular democracy with the second biggest armed forces in Nato, in order to defend some Marxist-Leninist terror group in Northern Iraq, can only be the immagination of some delusional idiot. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:07 pm |
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You just reminded me of the song memories...only if I just remembered the rest of the lyrics...
oh yeah here they are...
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:08 pm |
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| Do you believe the PKK has biological or chemical weapons?? I know that the US considers the Iraqi Kurds as there friends, yet I dont understand why they would be helping the PKK who is a terrorist organization. I know the PKK has executed alot of Kurds that dont buy into there beliefs. I dont know really respect the Iraqi Kurdish government, they tend to treat Assyrians, Arabs, Armenians and Turkomens as second class citizens. I see the Armenian and Assyrian populous moving to Armenia and the Turkomen to Turkey. There is no future left for them there. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:12 pm |
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| bg_turk wrote: |
| ARMENIAN CYPRIOT wrote: |
Turkey doesnt need approval from the USA?? Nor did Iraq before invading Kuwait. The USA Has troops there, they didnt have any in Cyprus. Turkey wouldnt go against the USA on this because they dont have the balls. By the way if Turkey is stupid enough to follow through with its threats and throws the US out of there air base and severes ties with Isreal they will get skull fucked. The only thing Turkey is going to do is whine like little bitches, like they did during the 90s when my Armenian brethrean liberated 25% of Azerbijan. |
Only a retard would say that the USA will attack Turkey. Not only would such a move be extremely unpopular among Americans, but the US simply does not have the millitary capacity to do something like that.
The USA attacking Turkey, the only Muslim ally and a secular democracy with the second biggest armed forces in Nato, in order to defend some Marxist-Leninist terror group in Northern Iraq, can only be the immagination of some delusional idiot. |
Where did I say the USA would attack Turkey for some Marxist B JOB?? Do you really believe Bush cares about what the public thinks?? |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:51 pm |
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| bg_turk wrote: |
Only a retard would say that the USA will attack Turkey. Not only would such a move be extremely unpopular among Americans, but the US simply does not have the millitary capacity to do something like that.
The USA attacking Turkey, the only Muslim ally and a secular democracy with the second biggest armed forces in Nato, in order to defend some Marxist-Leninist terror group in Northern Iraq, can only be the immagination of some delusional idiot. |
Does anyone say the USA wants to attack Turkey?!? But to say the US doesn't have the military capacity, youre clearly very confident about yourselves bg_turk! Time you take a fall! The US is the most powefful military country by a large distance. Mate Turkey may be the second biggest armed force in Nato. But, in the developed world, wars are not won by numbers these days. They are won by technology and believe me Turkey does not come near to the USA nor the UK nor Russia in terms of the training, organisation and technology.
Some years ago there was a study which showed that if the UK was attacked by Russian Air Force, it could wipe out two thirds of Russia's forces by the time it is wiped out itself. The UK's forces are smaller than Russia's but of a very high quality.
When people talk about the USA struggling in Iraq theyre talking about a small groups of armed bandits who hide away and rely on making ambushes which is the only way a small, inferior opposition can survive.
A war USA vs Turkey would leave the USA damaged but Turkey devasted. But this would not serve the interests of the USA and that's why it doesnt want this. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:23 am |
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| Barzani has just stated that they will attack any Turkish soldier that attempts to cross the border. I am sure he wouldnt make such a comment unless he had the US behind him. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:33 am |
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Turkey will end up doing it if you ask me. I'm sure the PKK wants them to aswell....Turkey have said that even if they do decide to invade, it's not going to happen till next month and I have a feeling that the PKK will attack before then just to provoke them.
If they do then not even Erdogan will be able to hold the military back. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 6:30 am |
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| ARMENIAN CYPRIOT wrote: |
| Barzani has just stated that they will attack any Turkish soldier that attempts to cross the border. I am sure he wouldnt make such a comment unless he had the US behind him. |
LOL whats new 
Soon Barzani will be having breakfast with Ocalan... |
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