Elections in America
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| GorillaGal wrote: |
| so what does this mean dinos? are you voting in this election? (can you?) who will you vote for? |
Yes, I can vote. It's slim pickings for sure but I'd vote for Nader purely for protest. I have my problems with him as he's way too consumer friendly for me. But hey - he hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell of winning, making that pill easier to swallow. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:33 am |
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| paliometoxo wrote: |
How do the americans on this forum feel about the up coming elections in america, january 2009 if im not mistaken?
From what i read online and from americans i speak to most will be glad to see Bush gone, and that america is now 5 trillion dollars in debt for this long war in Iraq?
A black man bill clintons wife and i forget who else will run? who would you guys vote for? |
Don't really care because I'm planning on moving to Cyprus before this is all in effect. But, I want Barack O'Bama to make history! 
Yay! |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:57 pm |
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| dinos wrote: |
| GorillaGal wrote: |
| so what does this mean dinos? are you voting in this election? (can you?) who will you vote for? |
Yes, I can vote. It's slim pickings for sure but I'd vote for Nader purely for protest. I have my problems with him as he's way too consumer friendly for me. But hey - he hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell of winning, making that pill easier to swallow. |
hahahhaaha, it's people like you that put Bush in office. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:56 pm |
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| NikosGB23 wrote: |
| paliometoxo wrote: |
How do the americans on this forum feel about the up coming elections in america, january 2009 if im not mistaken?
From what i read online and from americans i speak to most will be glad to see Bush gone, and that america is now 5 trillion dollars in debt for this long war in Iraq?
A black man bill clintons wife and i forget who else will run? who would you guys vote for? |
Don't really care because I'm planning on moving to Cyprus before this is all in effect. But, I want Barack O'Bama to make history!
Like Carter did? Of course is his turn - the good guys have to govern now. 5-max 10 years and then again the bad guys in power. is a very good and clever game which works perfectly for so many years.
Democracy is not what you are allowed to do but is what you are also able to do!!!
Yay! |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:17 am |
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| GorillaGal wrote: |
| dinos wrote: |
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| so what does this mean dinos? are you voting in this election? (can you?) who will you vote for? |
Yes, I can vote. It's slim pickings for sure but I'd vote for Nader purely for protest. I have my problems with him as he's way too consumer friendly for me. But hey - he hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell of winning, making that pill easier to swallow. |
hahahhaaha, it's people like you that put Bush in office. |
No, it's people that voted for Bush that put Bush in office. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:23 am |
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| dinos wrote: |
| GorillaGal wrote: |
| dinos wrote: |
| GorillaGal wrote: |
| so what does this mean dinos? are you voting in this election? (can you?) who will you vote for? |
Yes, I can vote. It's slim pickings for sure but I'd vote for Nader purely for protest. I have my problems with him as he's way too consumer friendly for me. But hey - he hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell of winning, making that pill easier to swallow. |
hahahhaaha, it's people like you that put Bush in office. |
No, it's people that voted for Bush that put Bush in office. |
no, it's people that didn't vote democrat as oppesed to republican and other parties. if the people that voted for Nader last election voted democratic, there would be a different person in the white house today. it was a close election........ |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:35 am |
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| EPSILON wrote: |
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| paliometoxo wrote: |
How do the americans on this forum feel about the up coming elections in america, january 2009 if im not mistaken?
From what i read online and from americans i speak to most will be glad to see Bush gone, and that america is now 5 trillion dollars in debt for this long war in Iraq?
A black man bill clintons wife and i forget who else will run? who would you guys vote for? |
Don't really care because I'm planning on moving to Cyprus before this is all in effect. But, I want Barack O'Bama to make history!
Like Carter did? Of course is his turn - the good guys have to govern now. 5-max 10 years and then again the bad guys in power. is a very good and clever game which works perfectly for so many years.
Democracy is not what you are allowed to do but is what you are also able to do!!!
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It's not really so much a game, just politics. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:06 am |
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| GorillaGal wrote: |
| dinos wrote: |
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| dinos wrote: |
| GorillaGal wrote: |
| so what does this mean dinos? are you voting in this election? (can you?) who will you vote for? |
Yes, I can vote. It's slim pickings for sure but I'd vote for Nader purely for protest. I have my problems with him as he's way too consumer friendly for me. But hey - he hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell of winning, making that pill easier to swallow. |
hahahhaaha, it's people like you that put Bush in office. |
No, it's people that voted for Bush that put Bush in office. |
no, it's people that didn't vote democrat as oppesed to republican and other parties. if the people that voted for Nader last election voted democratic, there would be a different person in the white house today. it was a close election........ |
GG, your point is entirely without merit. If Gore had run a half-way intelligent campaign instead of running around slobbering on his hag of a wife on stage to show that he's sensitive to female voters, he'd have gone further.
Gore cost himself that election by being a bigger disaster than Bush. If he was a strong candidate, he'd have won over Nader's supporters. Nobody is obligated to vote for any particular party and support of a third party simply cannot be construed as support of one of the larger two by the loser of the larger two parties. Some people reject the choice of two evils to vote for. Good for them. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:38 am |
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| well dinos, we will agree to disagree. we are entitled to more than just a democratic or republican party, but since the huge majority votes for one of those two parties, a vote for anyone other is pretty much a wasted vote. |
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| dinos wrote: |
GG, your point is entirely without merit. If Gore had run a half-way intelligent campaign instead of running around slobbering on his hag of a wife on stage to show that he's sensitive to female voters, he'd have gone further.
Gore cost himself that election by being a bigger disaster than Bush. If he was a strong candidate, he'd have won over Nader's supporters. Nobody is obligated to vote for any particular party and support of a third party simply cannot be construed as support of one of the larger two by the loser of the larger two parties. Some people reject the choice of two evils to vote for. Good for them. |
Hi Dinos,
What you say about Gore is fairly true, and had he not distanced himself from Clinton too much, because of "Lewinsky Gate", he could have done much better, despite all the shenanigans with Florida's election board. Also lets not forget, that Gore even lost his home state of Tennessee, which would have gave him the Presidency, so Gore did screw things for himself, no doubt.
Having said all that, this is the part I found it to be troubling for me with Nader and those who supported him in 2000. Gore run on being environmentalist and Bush run on "Fuck the environment", and yet those who supported Nader, as well as being a protest voters, they were also by and large environmentalist. So it defied logic, as to why one would vote for Nader who had no chance of winning to have made a difference on the environment, when Gore would have been a better choice, and on the flip side of the coin, they also knew that Bush could care less about the environment, which their Nader support was in fact a factor in electing Bush, specially in Florida.
Happy 4th of July.!! |
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