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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:40 am Reply with quote
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Kikapu wrote:
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Since JFK broke the "Catholic religion barrier", perhaps we will see Obama break the "Black barrier". Someone else other than Hillary is going to have to break the "women barrier", because she has started to act like a Bitch lately.

Then again, a "Bitch" will fit nicely in with all those characters I mentioned in my first paragraph. Laughing

Can Hillary break the "Bitch" barrier.? Laughing

In any case, there is definitely going to be a very loud BOOMS, as soon as new "barriers" are broken. Very Happy

I can't wait to hear the Double BOOMS when the "Gay barrier" is broken for the White House...............in year 5000. Laughing


"Bitch"?! What's up with this?! When male politicians engage in mud-slinging, it's called "bashing the opponent." When the one-and-only female presidential hopeful in the history of the country does it, she's labled a "bitch" ... and this coming from a man (you are a man, aren't you?)! Yup, the old double-standard is alive an well. Rolling Eyes


I was not condemning her for being "bitchy" at all, but she wanted to run a "clean" campaign until she realise that
"nice guys finish last". Laughing

I still think Obama will keep his cool and not resort to being a "bastard" towards Hillary, although she would love for him to take the "low road". Wink

I am a man and Hillary is my second choice after Obama for the presidency.


Perhaps you're not "condemning" her, but certainly criticizing her with the derrogatory, male chauvanistically imposed label of "bitch." If her behavior is that of a "bitch," then why not label all politicians who engage in the same behavior as "bitches"? How often were the mud-slinging kings Guiliani and Romney referred to as "bitches"?

Let me clarify that, despite not condoning the label "bitch," I'm neither condoning her uncomely strategy. I respect Obama for keeping his nose clean ... or as you put it, refraining from being a "bastard" (like giving equal time to this label makes the use of the other one any better! I'm on to you, my friend) Razz


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I'm on to you, my friend


Oh Shit............................I'm BUSTED. Laughing Laughing Laughing


Damn straight, you are! Shocked

"Kikapu" ... is this like "kapou ekei"? Confused


Sorry, I don't do GREEK.!!


When I see your nick it makes me think of the expression ekei kapou, which when said, comes out "''kei kapou." Translation: there somewhere.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:46 am Reply with quote
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Obama will win the next Presidential race in November. 11 primary states in a row...Texas and Ohio next. Hillary is finished!!!
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:32 pm Reply with quote
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Oracle wrote:
This thread is just proving "Americans" just do not understand discrimination ... and how they perpetuate it. Rolling Eyes

Grow up USA ..... the resources are wasted on you.

A man is a man ..... no matter the colour of his skin ..... and you have had an endless parade of male Presidents.

Here is your one chance to act "European" and civilized ... and elect a Woman ..... with more brains than all your past Presidents combined ...

Don't blow it! Very Happy


Dear Oracle, it appears that you're inhaling those vapors again, so maybe now would be a good time to qualify your comment that Senator Clinton has "more brains than all of [our] past Presidents combined." If you please, how have you come to this conclusion?

Dino, did you watch the debate last night? If so, would you care to share your analysis? Very Happy
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:04 pm Reply with quote
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Filitsa wrote:
Dino, did you watch the debate last night? If so, would you care to share your analysis? Very Happy


I watched a bit of it...
My analysis: It went Obama's way. I don't think Hillary could've done worse if she was trying to throw the primary. She missed the boat on the attacks she leveled on him (i.e. the NAFTA thing) and failed to attack in ways that would've been more substantive (i.e. Obama's voting record, which is quite similar to hers). She could've hit Obama on his softball status - he has never had to run a hard campaign against a republican, he ran as an anti-war candidate in an anti-war district, he's waffled on his anti-war status when courting Kerry. Obama just hasn't had to navigate difficult positions to manoever ahead like Hillary has. She could've called Obama on all of this - but failed. Most likely because she chose poorly when hiring her strategic staff.

Moreover, her winging that she keeps getting asked questions first was rather unbecoming of a professional. And her jumping to answer questions first after that lost her some credibility.

It's a shame that an intelligent person would screw up like that...
PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:08 pm Reply with quote
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Hello Dinos,how are you ?
I think Mrs Clinton is starting to panic,it's a real shame,she's a bright woman.
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purdey wrote:
Hello Dinos,how are you ?
I think Mrs Clinton is starting to panic,it's a real shame,she's a bright woman.


Hey, Purdey - I'm well; hope you are too...

I'm not sure if I'd call it panic; she's basically been forced to campaign with one hand tied behind her back from the start. It doesn't help that the news media are in the tank for Obama either.

Guess she shouldn't have pissed off Dick Morris... Laughing Laughing
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dinos wrote:
Filitsa wrote:
Dino, did you watch the debate last night? If so, would you care to share your analysis? Very Happy


I watched a bit of it...
My analysis: It went Obama's way. I don't think Hillary could've done worse if she was trying to throw the primary. She missed the boat on the attacks she leveled on him (i.e. the NAFTA thing) and failed to attack in ways that would've been more substantive (i.e. Obama's voting record, which is quite similar to hers). She could've hit Obama on his softball status - he has never had to run a hard campaign against a republican, he ran as an anti-war candidate in an anti-war district, he's waffled on his anti-war status when courting Kerry. Obama just hasn't had to navigate difficult positions to manoever ahead like Hillary has. She could've called Obama on all of this - but failed. Most likely because she chose poorly when hiring her strategic staff.

Moreover, her winging that she keeps getting asked questions first was rather unbecoming of a professional. And her jumping to answer questions first after that lost her some credibility.

It's a shame that an intelligent person would screw up like that...


... And not just her strategy staff. I began questioning the integrity of her choices when she hired her campaign manager up here. He "resigned" after she apologized to Obama for remarks he made about Obama's drug use as a teen. The media claimed African American associations were calling for his resignation, but she denied this.

She either relies too heavily upon her staff to call the shots or doesn't maintain the necessary control. She's been investing too much time putting out fires. Obama, on the other hand, surrounds himself with like-minded people, which gives the impression that he's in control.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:10 am Reply with quote
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I like obama i wrote to him and he signed it with pen im all excited i like his ideas and how he speaks (close to jfk status)

I hate hillary with a passion, sadly i live in new york and if she cant do a task as running as senator of the state of new york then she cant run the country period! I hate the Clinton's free trade crap we are losing alot of jobs at home and she promised NY one thing more jobs and within the first 3 years, Central New york lost 95,000 manufacturing jobs 60,000 alone went to china. One thing i hope our next presedent changes is the realitys of global warming and the growth of our economy.

P.s guys im back sorry for so long
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:36 pm Reply with quote
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Ok, so I admit that Hilary will probably win the Dem. nomination. Maybe Obama is too inexperienced, but I just thought the country needed a fresh take on several issues, particularly foreign policy and the debt, and I think Obama would have been the one to generate new ideas and inspire a lot of currently apathetic citizens. Yes, a good business manager is needed as president, but he could have always hired some experienced administrators for the executive branch (like for his VP, Chief of Staff, and his cabinet). It's a shame that he will probably lose because he did inspire so many people and had a clean ethical record to match.
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Hilary is back.....and my friend John is well on the way to the White House.
Dinos we need your input,what's the news on the streets.
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