HeadsUp: Tri-Referendum and Solution for 2008?
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| xxNilxx |
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tell us why hasn't so far your leader Rauf Denktash thought about it all these years? << quote
Sayın Rauf Rais Denktaş, wanted unifcation with Turkey... he created the Nationalist Unity Party (UBP) a party that wants unification with Turkey. He could also speak very, very good Greek.
Basically, Denktaş and Papadouplos nearly brang this country to a stage that unifcation could never have been possible, but neither managed.
The thing that I don't like about what Denktaş did was that he refused the Cyprus passport... That passport is as much OURS as it is YOURS.  |
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:52 pm |
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| xxNilxx |
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Unification? And have Oracle Grivas as my aunties neighbours  NO WAY... No telling what that crazy old woman and the G/Cs of her kind is able to do |
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:12 pm |
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| Kifeas |
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| xxNilxx wrote: |
I'm sorry for the family you have lost Kifeas... But you lost them from TURKISH TROOPs. I lost them from our brothers... the Greek Cypriots.. it's not so much about losing, it's the fact that they deny everything that they have done and act as if they are completely innocent and then teach their kids ''there is no such thing as a Turkish Cypriot''.
Halil that sounds like it will be a big step for TRNC.  |
Hundreds of other GCs have lost their lives from TC hands too, since 1958! Most massacres of innocent GC civilians taken as hostages in 1974, were in fact committed by TC paramilitaries, rather than the Turkish troops! |
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:18 pm |
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| xxNilxx |
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Oh right... and G/Cs are so innocent! They did not kill a soul! LIES! GWRGOS Grivas? EOKA B? HUNTA? REMEMBER?? or you forget so suddenly and like to blame EVERYTHING on us?? TMT was the Turkish Resistance against EOKA, where you were killing our people...remember???
Read it on wikipedia if you must, gives a whole article on why TMT was created.
Secondly, T/Cs are over the ''you killed this and that'' thing so why can't you guys just move on from the past and stop blaming your old neighbours for EVERYTHING. |
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:20 pm |
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| xxNilxx wrote: |
Oh right... and G/Cs are so innocent! They did not kill a soul! LIES! GWRGOS Grivas? EOKA B? HUNTA? REMEMBER?? or you forget so suddenly and like to blame EVERYTHING on us?? TMT was the Turkish Resistance against EOKA, where you were killing our people...remember???
Read it on wikipedia if you must, gives a whole article on why TMT was created.
Secondly, T/Cs are over the ''you killed this and that'' thing so why can't you guys just move on from the past and stop blaming your old neighbours for EVERYTHING. |
Is this what I have said here?
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Nil, I have also lost several close relatives in 1974, some of which been murdered by Turkish troops, but I never felt the need to be moaning about it in the forums! It is a fact of life that people from both communities have been murdered, in all the stages of the Cyprus conflict! |
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:39 pm |
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:43 pm |
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| repulsewarrior |
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| xxNilxx wrote: |
| Unification? And have Oracle Grivas as my aunties neighbours NO WAY... No telling what that crazy old woman and the G/Cs of her kind is able to do |
...among extremists, this knife cuts both ways.
but it is not a fight against "Greeks" or "Turks", it is a fight against Intolerance, if we are people first, responsible for our actions as Individuals, as well as Persons. |
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:08 pm |
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| Get Real! |
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| Muzzy70 wrote: |
I do know, for a fact, that were a further round of negotiations in Cyprus to fail, a referendum will take place in the TRNC with the following three questions:
1: Do you wish to seek international recognition of the TRNC with unfettered self-determination ?
2: Do you wish to become a part of the Republic of Turkey ?
3: Do you wish to return to the state of affairs as per the London -Zurich Accords of 1959 and join the Republic of Cyprus ?
Mark my words, the above referendum will take place in the event of any failure to come to a mutually acceptable agreement.  |
The “TRNC” can have all the “referendums” it wants and that includes a referendum to choose between Talat and Nasreddin Hodja for a TC leader, but that doesn’t mean that anyone else will recognize it. |
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:16 pm |
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| Get Real! |
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| Muzzy70 wrote: |
| For gods sake when are you Greek Cypriots going to wake up to the realities that an end-game is now taking place in Cyprus. You are in such a comfort zone concerning your own legitimacy that you are blind as to what this end game will be. International politics has moved on. One state will eventually recognise the TRNC followed by another, then another and another and another and another. It's going to happen so bloody well WAKE UP. |
Trust unkie GR when he tells you that recognition of the "TRNC" can never happen even if the whole world wanted to unless the existing UN resolution 541 is revoked...
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Considering therefore that the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus", is invalid, and will contribute to a worsening of the situation in Cyprus,
Calls upon all States not to recognise any Cypriot state other than the Republic of Cyprus; |
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm |
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:19 pm |
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| Oracle |
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| xxNilxx wrote: |
| Unification? And have Oracle Grivas as my aunties neighbours NO WAY... No telling what that crazy old woman and the G/Cs of her kind is able to do |
Fear not Turkish skata ... I would rather have a pig-sty closer to my house than have you as a neighbour ....
And forget calling me Grivas ... If I had in mind to do, what you think he had in mind to do ... you can be certain I would have succeeded, and we really would have been living in peace now ... 
Oh well  I can dream ....  |
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