Persecution is a Tribute.
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| Paphitis wrote: |
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Surely they will both just 'sign on' under different names..............  |
Don't you have another lame joke to post?
The GAME thread is also very busy and Deniz will surely be missing you.
Please refrain from polluting this very serious thread with your absurdities. Now bugger of unless you want to be useful and give me some advice about my swimming pool. |
A Typical example of a rude and uneccesary response to a legitimate question. |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:09 pm |
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| Paphitis |
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| Jerry wrote: |
| Paphitis wrote: |
| SSBubbles wrote: |
| Surely they will both just 'sign on' under different names.............. |
Don't you have another lame joke to post?
The GAME thread is also very busy and Deniz will surely be missing you.
Please refrain from polluting this very serious thread with your absurdities. Now bugger of unless you want to be useful and give me some advice about my swimming pool. |
A Typical example of a rude and uneccesary response to a legitimate question. |
It was not a legitimate question but a post intended to rub salt in the wounds to all those that have been wrongfully silenced and therefore it deserved to be dealt with in the way it was.
I also remind you to refrain from polluting this very serious thread on free speech.
Now buzz off to the GAME thread. |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:09 pm |
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| bill cobbett |
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| Jerry wrote: |
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| GAGGED by Jerry because I am am not intelligent or well-informed ? |
Oh come on Bill, I said put off joining. |
I hear what you're saying now Jerry. At first and brief sight and in the excitement of the morning I must say I put another interpretation on your post. Apologies. |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:16 pm |
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| bill cobbett wrote: |
| Jerry wrote: |
| bill cobbett wrote: |
| GAGGED by Jerry because I am am not intelligent or well-informed ? |
Oh come on Bill, I said put off joining. |
I hear what you're saying now Jerry. At first and brief sight and in the excitement of the morning I must say I put another interpretation on your post. Apologies. |
No problem Bill. Perhaps I should have PMd you so that these post doesn't pollute this serious thread. |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:17 pm |
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| Paphitis |
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| Jerry wrote: |
| bill cobbett wrote: |
| Jerry wrote: |
| bill cobbett wrote: |
| GAGGED by Jerry because I am am not intelligent or well-informed ? |
Oh come on Bill, I said put off joining. |
I hear what you're saying now Jerry. At first and brief sight and in the excitement of the morning I must say I put another interpretation on your post. Apologies. |
No problem Bill. Perhaps I should have PMd you so that these post doesn't pollute this serious thread. |
Exactly right. |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:28 pm |
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| Paphitis wrote: |
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My two cents...
This is a free forum provided by the Admin to make money for them. That is the one and only reason for this boards existence.
Therefore Admin are free to decide what is acceptable to them on the board. They are also free to decide who stays and posts and who is banned...
Quite frankly I think the whole thing needs a good kick up the arse and re-organisation. Many people post here (or have posted here); Cypriots, Expats and people considering making Cyprus their home. There needs to be separate sections for those that want to debate, those that want info about Cyprus and those that just want to chat or play games.
Quite frankly, the only 'power' that the regular contributors to the board possess is to reduce the advertising revenue by reducing the number of clicks the site receives. Perhaps we can go on strike or bugger-off to another board (mine perhaps) where free speech and debate are welcomed (it being a not-for-profit site).  |
With all due respect. I am not taking Admin to task as to how he or she should be running this forum. The issue is purely one of free speech and fairness. |
With all due respect (that generally means none), my points are valid – Admin decides what goes and what stays on the board based on their perceived appeal to their advertisers.
Posting here (as on any other free forum) is a privilege and not a right. |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:38 pm |
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| Paphitis wrote: |
| Jerry wrote: |
| bill cobbett wrote: |
| Jerry wrote: |
| bill cobbett wrote: |
| GAGGED by Jerry because I am am not intelligent or well-informed ? |
Oh come on Bill, I said put off joining. |
I hear what you're saying now Jerry. At first and brief sight and in the excitement of the morning I must say I put another interpretation on your post. Apologies. |
No problem Bill. Perhaps I should have PMd you so that these post doesn't pollute this serious thread. |
Exactly right. |
So what happened to free speech Paphitis? |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:56 pm |
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| Paphitis |
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| cyprusgrump wrote: |
| Paphitis wrote: |
| cyprusgrump wrote: |
My two cents...
This is a free forum provided by the Admin to make money for them. That is the one and only reason for this boards existence.
Therefore Admin are free to decide what is acceptable to them on the board. They are also free to decide who stays and posts and who is banned...
Quite frankly I think the whole thing needs a good kick up the arse and re-organisation. Many people post here (or have posted here); Cypriots, Expats and people considering making Cyprus their home. There needs to be separate sections for those that want to debate, those that want info about Cyprus and those that just want to chat or play games.
Quite frankly, the only 'power' that the regular contributors to the board possess is to reduce the advertising revenue by reducing the number of clicks the site receives. Perhaps we can go on strike or bugger-off to another board (mine perhaps) where free speech and debate are welcomed (it being a not-for-profit site). |
With all due respect. I am not taking Admin to task as to how he or she should be running this forum. The issue is purely one of free speech and fairness. |
With all due respect (that generally means none), my points are valid – Admin decides what goes and what stays on the board based on their perceived appeal to their advertisers.
Posting here (as on any other free forum) is a privilege and not a right. |
My dear sister in arms, Oracle, was wrongfully banned for asserting the following:
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Where is GR! ...?
He was the lifeline of this forum. He questioned the real value of Democracy. Prepared to pay a membership fee for the right to speak his mind.
I have only recently come to realise that Cyprus Forum is above all else .. just another money making Capitalist venture ... in the guise of a free-speaking questioning, Cyprus Problem solution seeking forum. 
Nope. 
It is just another Company .. with a Capital C.
And not "C" for Cyprus...
Duped ... yes I was ... Cyprus Forum ... you owe me and Get Real! BIG TIME ... I really thought Cyprus was at the forefront of this forum ... but no ....... you kow tow to Turks and Brits ... and their wanton lifestyles!
Make your mind up ... are you for Cyprus or just screwing Cyprus for some advertising revenue ... because I only have time for Cyprus!
I suspected Cyprus Forum was fast becoming Cyprus Living ... but now I guess I feel it has sunk even lower ... it pretends to be high-brow ... but it does not know how to keep its intelligent questioning forumers happy ....
Cyprus Forum ... what do you want to be ... at the forefront of intelligentsia .... questioning free-thinking ... or a life-style magazine (of which there are plenty ...)
Shame on you for using Cyprus and its Problems to line your pockets .... |
Now you assert that Admin has every right to decide who has the right to post on this forum based on appeal to sponsors...You also seem to imply that the CF is just another Company with a Capital C. The exact thing that Oracle stated and yet you will probably not be banned for it.
I am not questioning the fact that Admin has every right to run the forum as they wish. The issue is purely that of free speech.
Admins response to Oracle's post was as follows:
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Oracle, the forum is not making any profits. The minimal ads don't even cover the costs of the server let alone the many hours I have to put every day to deal with spammers and disputes. Still, I never claimed that the forum is a charity organization. The name is Cyprus-Forum.com, .com stands for commercial.
This is a Cyprus Forum, and not just a "Cyprus Problem Forum". The Cyprus Problem is just one part of the forum but this is something you didn't want to understand.
In this forum I am trying to allow the maximum of free speech possible and even very extreme positions are allowed to be voiced here. What I asked from you is not to stop expressing your opinion but to stop constantly provoking and annoying certain groups of people. This is something I asked you many times and I was very patient with you.
The account of Get Real was suspended for a few days for reasons I explained to him in detail.
If you want to continue posting here you have to accept that having a diversity of people and opinions is an aim of this forum. Take an obligatory break for two weeks. Until then you can think about it and decide if you want to continue participating in the forum or not. |
Now I certainly hope that you do not get banned for asserting the exact same thing as Oracle, for then we may risk being balanced.
Now back to the serious issue of free speech.
The bannings of GR and Oracle are in contravention to free speech which is both intelligent and thought provoking. Their only crime is to push the bounds and think outside the box just like Galileo who was also persecuted amongst many other figures of greatness throughout history. Yet, Miltiades with his arrogant posts and offensive behaviour has fixated on these free spirits which has contributed to GR and Oracle being wrongfully silenced. He also reigns free despite this arrogance and offensive behaviour in his mindless posts.
ADMIN, I DEMAND A REDRESS. Please explain as to the rationale of these 2 accounts being silenced. I HEREBY APPEAL ON THEIR BEHALF AND ASK OF THE REDRESS ON THE BASIS OF FREE SPEECH.
I ALSO DEMAND THAT THEIR ACCOUNTS BE RE-INSTATED. |
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OK, question answered, go for salt water, healthier and it will make it's own chlorine. Cheaper than all those chemicals too. hth.
As for the banning of Oracle etc etc i have been a flogging post for her in the past and very hurtful it was too. Saying that, we are all entitled to our views but i do think that at times she took it too far with the insults which were uncalled for in my opinion.
Free speech is a wonderful thing but always remember it can deeply hurt the other party.
I don't know the reason why she was suspended but i too have been suspended for a very long time from another Board for an argument with a moderator off Board. That still mystifies many people as to how you can be suspended for an argument not on the Board. Beggars belief in my book that one. Some moderators do act like almighty powers over others but they must remember we also email privately off Board and they are not all as popular as they think they are neither as people nor as moderators.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:06 pm |
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I am inclined to agree with the view that the exclusion of both Get Real and Oracle (for whatever period) is an unfair decision since their absences will have a detrimental affect on the quality of posts.
Both of those members have very forthright opinions and should be entitled to express them without fear of banishment.
Some members seem to be unable to distinguish between 'Debate' and 'Argument' which naturally leads to a certain amount of friction (should the latter interpretation prevail over the former) between those of opposing views.
An interesting (and very prominent) point I would like to raise, concerns the contributions of 'miltiades', here we have a member who forcefully condemns any who oppose his views, YET, declares himself to be an adamant supporter of 'Democracy'.
By his own submissions, he epitomizes 'Dictatorship' YET, is first to condemn it (or what he perceives it to be) in other nations.
Thankfully, neither miltiades nor any of like mind, are truly in positions of power, sycophantic acceptance of all that those who are in such positions of power may propose, is of little use to any who would like to see change and /or progress in negotiations concerning our country and others (such as I).
I DO wonder if the friction between miltiades and the two members, culminated in the suspension of them (Get Real and Oracle).
If such IS the case, then I consider the decision of Admin to be an even greater example of misjudgement, surely miltiades should be the one under suspension, or does Admin consider it necessary to keep him among us in order that he may "Keep an eye on us" as he has severally mentioned he is doing.
No offence intended to any person either mentioned or alluded to, just exercising my 'Democratic Rights' (if that's alright with miltiades) . |
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