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Postby zan » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:06 pm

If democracy is so omnipotent in people like Kikapus head, Why do we then need laws and feel we need to amend them as the age requires???
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Re: Democracy

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:29 pm

zan wrote:If democracy is so omnipotent in people like Kikapus head, Why do we then need laws and feel we need to amend them as the age requires???


You people don't even know the meaning of the word democracy, so stick this thread up your arse because it is futile to even discuss democracy with someone who deliberately manipulates the meaning of the word so that you can enjoy more rights at the expense of your countrymen, which I am sure you would go on a murderous rampage against them given half a chance.
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Postby zan » Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:33 pm

All those in favour?


















8) :lol:
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Postby zan » Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:38 pm

zan wrote:All those in favour?


















8) :lol:
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Re: Democracy

Postby Kikapu » Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:01 pm

zan wrote:If democracy is so omnipotent in people like Kikapus head, Why do we then need laws and feel we need to amend them as the age requires???


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Zan, you have once made this statement,

"don't ask me anything about Democracy, because I don't know anything about it"

and now you have opened a thread on the subject of Democracy.! :lol: :lol: :lol:

What will be the topics of your next threads,

"I know what it's like being a women",

or

"I know what it's like being Gay".

I hope you have better knowledge of the above two topics than you do about Democracy.! :lol:
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Re: Democracy

Postby bill cobbett » Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:24 pm

zan wrote:If democracy is so omnipotent in people like Kikapus head, Why do we then need laws and feel we need to amend them as the age requires???


People's views change with the times. What was the norm and acceptable in the past is no longer tolerated.

Some examples spring to mind.

Slavery was perfectly acceptable in most western countries one to two hundred years ago. Would any if us tolerate its legalisation nowadays?

Electoral suffrage - used to be the case that only relatively wealthy males could vote in elections, those with landholdings. Women of course couldn't vote at all until the beginning of the twentieth century in most western countries. Anyone want to argue against universal suffrage today?

Apartheid/Minority Rights - Anyone want a return to apartheid in the USA and SA and in much of the rest of the West? No, of course not, cos we feel it important that we respect the right of minority individuals to a full and equal share in the democratic process and at the same time protecting them collectively against discrimination.

Times change. Some might call it progress, our collective view of the times and the world or Zeitgeist (as I think it's called) changes so that all laws and constitutions become liable to refinement or more comprehensive changes in line with popular will.
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Re: Democracy

Postby zan » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:25 pm

Kikapu wrote:
zan wrote:If democracy is so omnipotent in people like Kikapus head, Why do we then need laws and feel we need to amend them as the age requires???


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Zan, you have once made this statement,

"don't ask me anything about Democracy, because I don't know anything about it"

and now you have opened a thread on the subject of Democracy.! :lol: :lol: :lol:

What will be the topics of your next threads,

"I know what it's like being a women",

or

"I know what it's like being Gay".

I hope you have better knowledge of the above two topics than you do about Democracy.! :lol:


You are talking bullshit and quoting out of context once again......I might have said it about you though.....What a bullshittter you are honestly... :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: Democracy

Postby zan » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:28 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
zan wrote:If democracy is so omnipotent in people like Kikapus head, Why do we then need laws and feel we need to amend them as the age requires???


People's views change with the times. What was the norm and acceptable in the past is no longer tolerated.

Some examples spring to mind.

Slavery was perfectly acceptable in most western countries one to two hundred years ago. Would any if us tolerate its legalisation nowadays?

Electoral suffrage - used to be the case that only relatively wealthy males could vote in elections, those with landholdings. Women of course couldn't vote at all until the beginning of the twentieth century in most western countries. Anyone want to argue against universal suffrage today?

Apartheid/Minority Rights - Anyone want a return to apartheid in the USA and SA and in much of the rest of the West? No, of course not, cos we feel it important that we respect the right of minority individuals to a full and equal share in the democratic process and at the same time protecting them collectively against discrimination.

Times change. Some might call it progress, our collective view of the times and the world or Zeitgeist (as I think it's called) changes so that all laws and constitutions become liable to refinement or more comprehensive changes in line with popular will.


Thanks Tim......Just wanted to confirm and maybe show Kikapu that it is adaptable..... :wink:
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Re: Democracy

Postby bill cobbett » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:33 pm

zan wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
zan wrote:If democracy is so omnipotent in people like Kikapus head, Why do we then need laws and feel we need to amend them as the age requires???


People's views change with the times. What was the norm and acceptable in the past is no longer tolerated.

Some examples spring to mind.

Slavery was perfectly acceptable in most western countries one to two hundred years ago. Would any if us tolerate its legalisation nowadays?

Electoral suffrage - used to be the case that only relatively wealthy males could vote in elections, those with landholdings. Women of course couldn't vote at all until the beginning of the twentieth century in most western countries. Anyone want to argue against universal suffrage today?

Apartheid/Minority Rights - Anyone want a return to apartheid in the USA and SA and in much of the rest of the West? No, of course not, cos we feel it important that we respect the right of minority individuals to a full and equal share in the democratic process and at the same time protecting them collectively against discrimination.

Times change. Some might call it progress, our collective view of the times and the world or Zeitgeist (as I think it's called) changes so that all laws and constitutions become liable to refinement or more comprehensive changes in line with popular will.


Thanks Tim......Just wanted to confirm and maybe show Kikapu that it is adaptable..... :wink:


You're welcome Zanny. - .....bill c. ....aka "Tim" :D
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:35 pm

Zan made it clear the other day that “democracy” is all about people agreeing to undemocratic decisions!

For example:

The RoC, under a military threat from Turkey, “agreeing” to give the miniscule TC minority 50% of the House of Representatives! :?

This is NOT democracy Zanny, but more like the Adana kebab! :lol:
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