Cyprus-Forum.com

[Trustme]

Bill, what are you talking about?? Slavery is rife in Cyprus!

[zan]

If democracy is so omnipotent in people like Kikapus head, Why do we then need laws and feel we need to amend them as the age requires???

People's views change with the times. What was the norm and acceptable in the past is no longer tolerated.

Some examples spring to mind.

Slavery was perfectly acceptable in most western countries one to two hundred years ago. Would any if us tolerate its legalisation nowadays?

Electoral suffrage - used to be the case that only relatively wealthy males could vote in elections, those with landholdings. Women of course couldn't vote at all until the beginning of the twentieth century in most western countries. Anyone want to argue against universal suffrage today?

Apartheid/Minority Rights - Anyone want a return to apartheid in the USA and SA and in much of the rest of the West? No, of course not, cos we feel it important that we respect the right of minority individuals to a full and equal share in the democratic process and at the same time protecting them collectively against discrimination.

Times change. Some might call it progress, our collective view of the times and the world or Zeitgeist (as I think it's called) changes so that all laws and constitutions become liable to refinement or more comprehensive changes in line with popular will.

Thanks Tim......Just wanted to confirm and maybe show Kikapu that it is adaptable.....

You're welcome Zanny. - .....bill c. ....aka "Tim"

[bill cobbett]

Bill, what are you talking about?? Slavery is rife in Cyprus!

Are you refering to the sex trade TMe? This is a problem throughout Europe. The authorities have failed to act with determination to stamp this foul practice out. Of course this evil crime must be condemned.

[zan]

Zan made it clear the other day that “democracy” is all about people agreeing to undemocratic decisions!

For example:

The RoC, under a military threat from Turkey, “agreeing” to give the miniscule TC minority 50% of the House of Representatives!

This is NOT democracy Zanny, but more like the Adana kebab!

I have said it many times...It works in the EU as far as you are concerned but not in Cyprus....Send your veto rights back GR...It seems you do not want them...

You are refusing to accept the obvious because it does not suit you...

[insan]

Oddly enough no one has talked about consociationalism. Is it because it does not fit your interests? However, skiping something exists does not make it nonexist.

http://reut-institute.org/Data/Uploads/ ... nalism.pdf

Consociationalism is a form of democracy which seeks to regulate the sharing of power in a state thatcomprises diverse societies (distinct ethnic, religious, national or linguistic groups), by allocating these groups collective rights....

Consociationalism could take different forms in different,places and the division of power between the central government and the autonomous political units varies.