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[miltiades]

Following the ceasefire in Gaza, here is what happened:

"After the ceasefire began, crowds and traffic filled the streets of Gaza. Car horns blared and recorded chants praising GOD sounded from mosque loudspeakers. Celebratory gunfire KILLED one Palestinian and WOUNDED 19 others, hospital officials said."

Life is so cheap !!!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/ ... 1320140826

[Lordo]

when one suffers under the savage for so long i am afraid some of it is bound to brush on the victims.

when it comes to firing on innocent civilians because of the rockets hamas was firing at israel which was not able to hit any targets except by accident, reminds me of the nazis who lined up greeks in greece and shot them because a german soldier was injured. but what is really amazing is how fools are able to align themselves with the nazis killing innocent civilans including women and children by the thousand. that is beyond belief.

[miltiades]

when one suffers under the savage for so long i am afraid some of it is bound to brush on the victims.

when it comes to firing on innocent civilians because of the rockets hamas was firing at israel which was not able to hit any targets except by accident, reminds me of the nazis who lined up greeks in greece and shot them because a german soldier was injured. but what is really amazing is how fools are able to align themselves with the nazis killing innocent civilans including women and children by the thousand. that is beyond belief.

Were you born bloody stupid or did you study for it !Your mates are ....celebrating....victory So they shoot a few of their own in the process Listen stupid, for as long as their guiding force is their allah they will always kill and be killed, while their female VRIKOLAKES brandish a gun !!
What a waste of life, what a load of brainwashed zombies, a bid like you

[Tim Drayton]

It looks like US strategy (if official pronouncements are to be believed) now is to broker a Western-Sunni alliance and cold-shoulder Shiite Iran and the Alawite Syrian regime. I hope he realises there is plenty of circumstantial evidence pointing to support for IS from Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

The US is also seeking to involve regional allies in its effort against the Islamic State.

The U.S. officials speaking in the New York Times on Wednesday, said they are requesting Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, the United Arab Emirate and Jordan to shore-up support for what they called moderate Syrian rebels opposing Syrian President Bashar Al Assad.

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/O ... -0069.html

[miltiades]

"what they called moderate Syrian rebels opposing Syrian President Bashar Al Assad."

In my opinion the USA is making a huge mistake in considering that the rebels opposing Assad are in any way "moderates".

Those opposing Assad as well as the Assad army have shown themselves to be equally ruthless and blood thirsty.

[Tim Drayton]

I don't really agree. At the outset there was a movement consisting of decent people who were pushing for democratic change by peaceful means. It went from there through Assad's machinations and outside support for extremists, especially from certain Gulf countries, to the current situation in which the movement has been hijacked by the Islamists.

[miltiades]

I don't really agree. At the outset there was a movement consisting of decent people who were pushing for democratic change by peaceful means. It went from there through Assad's machinations and outside support for extremists, especially from certain Gulf countries, to the current situation in which the movement has been hijacked by the Islamists.

Tim, are you telling me that 1000 opposing groups can possibly be moderate ?

"There are believed to be as many as 1,000 armed opposition groups in Syria, commanding an estimated 100,000 fighters. "

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24403003

[Tim Drayton]

This didn't start out as an armed opposition at all. It was a dignified opposition movement that was only later forced to resort to arms, initially in the form of the Syrian Free Army, in response to the regime's disproportionate response. Sadly, all sorts of lunatics and psychopaths were armed by extremists in the Gulf States, and Assad let a lot of psychopaths out of his jails to go and join them, leading to the tragedy we see today. I was hoping that Assad would fall, leading to the next domino, but history has followed a different path.

[miltiades]

This didn't start out as an armed opposition at all. It was a dignified opposition movement that was only later forced to resort to arms, initially in the form of the Syrian Free Army, in response to the regime's disproportionate response. Sadly, all sorts of lunatics and psychopaths were armed by extremists in the Gulf States, and Assad let a lot of psychopaths out of his jails to go and join them, leading to the tragedy we see today. I was hoping that Assad would fall, leading to the next domino, but history has followed a different path.

I agree Tim, unfortunately the stage has already been set, who kills who.

Democracy is not compatible with the prevailent culture anywhere in the ME, its time that the west realizes that the only "functional " governace is unfortunately dictadorial.
We now see Libya facing civil war, Yemen, S.Soudan and other nations.

Provided they do not pose a threat to the western world or its interests they should be left to their own devices. Cultural and religious constrains nourished over more than 1000 years will determine their future.

[Tim Drayton]

I beg to differ. I believe that all human beings share the same hopes and aspirations, and the long march of history will lead to secular democracies in the Middle East. It is naive to expect this to be a swift, straightforward process, however.