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Postby gabaston » Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:03 pm

how do you think the armenians got their corncerns raised in the free capitalist USA in the first place.
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Postby fi » Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:10 pm

Well I don't know. No proof of bribbing from them though.
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Postby gabaston » Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:17 pm

ah yes that one

there is no evidence to suggest huh?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

well so the mighty state of armenia ( how many of them can there be after turkey murdered most of them ) with all the power and influence that comes with such a state can take center stage in the govt affairs without oiling the wheels of such an uncorruptable constitution which is U.S.A.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:57 pm

fi wrote:You don't have to worry we have a real democracy here unlike the Turkish military state/extremists which is true has killed many TC that tried to reveal the truth or expose the state.

In the ROC you can say anything you want without fear (besides as we said you can do it anonymously :) ).


Any comments on the article?


Are you sure about this?? kindly recall the run up to the referendum YES voters were afraid to voice their opinions for fear of reprecussions,bomb explosions, smashed cars, verbal abuse, television censorship to confirm all this your opposition leader sent a letter of complaint about the undemocratic situation in the south, to the EU he was latter was forced by mounting pressure to retract his letter for fear of his life. the UN also included a message that Democracy in the south leaves a lot to be desired. Nothing has changed in the south the mentality and course antics which contributed to 1974 are still evident and will increase over time again confirming why we are unable to function as one and that the best solution is recongnized partition.
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Postby ChomskyFan » Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:18 am

gabaston wrote:ah yes that one

there is no evidence to suggest huh?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

well so the mighty state of armenia ( how many of them can there be after turkey murdered most of them ) with all the power and influence that comes with such a state can take center stage in the govt affairs without oiling the wheels of such an uncorruptable constitution which is U.S.A.


So you DONT have any evidence......
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Postby gabaston » Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:43 am

there is evidence to suggest that not having evidence to suggest proves nothing.
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Postby ChomskyFan » Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:52 am

gabaston wrote:there is evidence to suggest that not having evidence to suggest proves nothing.


Well no, not having evidence proves nothing full stop.

I find it quite interesting that one could justify the mass murder of 1.5 Million people. Quite sick if you ask me.
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Postby gabaston » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:29 am

im not asking.

your opinions are self evident.
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Postby JustAnAmerican » Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:03 pm

Let’s clear a few things up concerning American politicians, campaign contributions and Dennis Haster.

The $50,000 is money that was given to Dennis Haster’s, but was sent to his political campaign, not his personal bank account. Of course, there are ways to manipulate campaign money, but it cannot be used for his personal gain. All politicians by law have to keep third party, stringent public accountants on their staffs in an effort to manage the money. He cannot just go withdraw the money, as he wants out of the bank and buy a car with it. I sure he can throw a few, “Campaign dinners” at his house or on the beach, but it would be tough to hide $50,000.

A few years ago, the Clinton’s would rent a ballroom, and charge $1,000 dollars a plate for their fundraisers. It could be seen as a bribe, (buy a plate-meet the Clintons) but the money just went from the dinner guest to the Democratic Party campaign accounts.

Trust me, if the Democratic party (Haster’s opposition party) believed that he personally accepted $50,000 he would be out of a job immediately. They would remove him as Speaker of the House.

Reagan almost got in trouble with this. Clinton’s VP almost got in trouble with this.

Any US Citizen can only legally provide up to about $3,000 dollars as an individual to another individual running for a public office. But as a member of a political party (which any one could be), one can donate as much as they want and can donate for a campaign in 3 to 6 years in the future. The 50K most likely would have been for his campaign fund.

Now for the conspirators and the haters, lets just say Dennis Haster was an Ultra-Pro, Turkish sympathizer. A real-anti-Greek, anti-Cypriot idiot….. it really would not matter.

He is one man, a congressman, not a senator. He has one vote out of 366. He is not very relevant.
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Postby ChomskyFan » Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:20 pm

JustAnAmerican wrote:Let’s clear a few things up concerning American politicians, campaign contributions and Dennis Haster.

The $50,000 is money that was given to Dennis Haster’s, but was sent to his political campaign, not his personal bank account. Of course, there are ways to manipulate campaign money, but it cannot be used for his personal gain. All politicians by law have to keep third party, stringent public accountants on their staffs in an effort to manage the money. He cannot just go withdraw the money, as he wants out of the bank and buy a car with it. I sure he can throw a few, “Campaign dinners” at his house or on the beach, but it would be tough to hide $50,000.

A few years ago, the Clinton’s would rent a ballroom, and charge $1,000 dollars a plate for their fundraisers. It could be seen as a bribe, (buy a plate-meet the Clintons) but the money just went from the dinner guest to the Democratic Party campaign accounts.

Trust me, if the Democratic party (Haster’s opposition party) believed that he personally accepted $50,000 he would be out of a job immediately. They would remove him as Speaker of the House.

Reagan almost got in trouble with this. Clinton’s VP almost got in trouble with this.

Any US Citizen can only legally provide up to about $3,000 dollars as an individual to another individual running for a public office. But as a member of a political party (which any one could be), one can donate as much as they want and can donate for a campaign in 3 to 6 years in the future. The 50K most likely would have been for his campaign fund.

Now for the conspirators and the haters, lets just say Dennis Haster was an Ultra-Pro, Turkish sympathizer. A real-anti-Greek, anti-Cypriot idiot….. it really would not matter.

He is one man, a congressman, not a senator. He has one vote out of 366. He is not very relevant.


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