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Postby Turkey (( * » Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:00 am

What I am saying is that these Kurd problems are not the rise of real Kurds! It is a provocation of the powerful countries. If there was a referendum now, yes the answer would come out yes. But it wouldn't be the real Kurds who were in the referendum, it would be the wanna be Kurds who take money from foreign forces to talk like this!! Anyway Kurds are not only in Turkey but in Iran as well, which is not a very good friend of US.Now you get why the Kurds just came up wanting a state!!The US wants Turkey and IRan down, so it uses Kurds and PKK. This is the simplest form of it you don't get it, it means that you do NOT want to get it!
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Postby demetriou_74 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:08 am

dont get me wrong i am by no means turkey's biggest fan but this is all wrong. live in england learn english. live in spain learn spanish. live in japan learn japaneese. why make their own state. this will just be a sitting duck for attacks. intergration into society.
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Postby ChomskyFan » Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:13 am

Turkey (( * wrote:What I am saying is that these Kurd problems are not the rise of real Kurds!


So they are fake kurds then?

If there was a referendum now, yes the answer would come out yes. But it wouldn't be the real Kurds who were in the referendum,

Ahh, the fake Kurds again.

it would be the wanna be Kurds who take money from foreign forces to talk like this!!


Rich coming from someone whose country is the biggest US stooge on the planet.

Anyway Kurds are not only in Turkey but in Iran as well, which is not a very good friend of US.Now you get why the Kurds just came up wanting a state!!


Yes, and the Kurds in Iran are treated like dirt.

The US wants Turkey and IRan down, so it uses Kurds and PKK. This is the simplest form of it you don't get it, it means that you do NOT want to get it!


Hardly, you know very little if you think that, the US wants Turkey to remain as it is, a so called 'Republic' run by the NSC.
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Postby Murtaza » Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:20 am

dont be stupid,

Hadep take just 6-7% of vote.
but Kurds claim they are 20 000 000 million Kurds, this mean Kurds vote is 25-30%.

so, we can easyly say 75% of kurds dont support PKK and Hadep. So stop to call PKK as kurdish problem. 75% of kurd is happy at Turkey, and They dont divide our country.

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why dont you show this tolerance to your Turkish minority? what about make a referandum for them? Maybe they want freedom hah? Double standart?
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Postby Turkey (( * » Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:22 am

Chomskyfan, I know you don't wanna understand what I said, don't twist my words, you know what I mean!!And you are giving stupid responses:

So they are fake kurds then?


No, they are Kurds but they get money to speak like that!

Rich coming from someone whose country is the biggest US stooge on the planet.


If you went to Turkey you would understand!! Just get in the Turkish public and see if we are por or anti-American. You'll see that most of the people nearly hate US!! Don't talk before you know it!!

Hardly, you know very little if you think that, the US wants Turkey to remain as it is, a so called 'Republic' run by the NSC.


Turkey disagrees with US and US leaves PKK and paid Kurds to do the job, Chomskyfan, it is as simple as that.Because when Turkey weakens it will HAVE to do what US says!!
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Postby theg » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:36 pm

ChomskyFan wrote:
Turkey (( * wrote:May be a civil war WILL come Chomskyfan but one thing you wish will never happen!! And that is the division of Turkish Republic!!


Why not give the Kurds the right to decide? Hold a referendum and see if they want their own state, a 70% supermajority means they will get it.... Do you agree?


maybe u can make a dreferandum at west trakia(turkish area) ok? maybe this turks can be decide right. ok???
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Postby ChomskyFan » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:41 pm

theg wrote:
ChomskyFan wrote:
Turkey (( * wrote:May be a civil war WILL come Chomskyfan but one thing you wish will never happen!! And that is the division of Turkish Republic!!


Why not give the Kurds the right to decide? Hold a referendum and see if they want their own state, a 70% supermajority means they will get it.... Do you agree?


maybe u can make a dreferandum at west trakia(turkish area) ok? maybe this turks can be decide right. ok???


We did have a referendum. Both sides did not agree, ergo, no solution.
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Postby theg » Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:01 pm

ChomskyFan wrote:
theg wrote:
ChomskyFan wrote:
Turkey (( * wrote:May be a civil war WILL come Chomskyfan but one thing you wish will never happen!! And that is the division of Turkish Republic!!


Why not give the Kurds the right to decide? Hold a referendum and see if they want their own state, a 70% supermajority means they will get it.... Do you agree?


maybe u can make a dreferandum at west trakia(turkish area) ok? maybe this turks can be decide right. ok???


We did have a referendum. Both sides did not agree, ergo, no solution.

when?
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Postby ChomskyFan » Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:21 pm

theg wrote:
ChomskyFan wrote:
theg wrote:
ChomskyFan wrote:
Turkey (( * wrote:May be a civil war WILL come Chomskyfan but one thing you wish will never happen!! And that is the division of Turkish Republic!!


Why not give the Kurds the right to decide? Hold a referendum and see if they want their own state, a 70% supermajority means they will get it.... Do you agree?


maybe u can make a dreferandum at west trakia(turkish area) ok? maybe this turks can be decide right. ok???


We did have a referendum. Both sides did not agree, ergo, no solution.

when?


It's called the Annan Plan.
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Postby theg » Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:39 pm

ChomskyFan wrote:
theg wrote:
ChomskyFan wrote:
theg wrote:
ChomskyFan wrote:
Turkey (( * wrote:May be a civil war WILL come Chomskyfan but one thing you wish will never happen!! And that is the division of Turkish Republic!!


Why not give the Kurds the right to decide? Hold a referendum and see if they want their own state, a 70% supermajority means they will get it.... Do you agree?


maybe u can make a dreferandum at west trakia(turkish area) ok? maybe this turks can be decide right. ok???


We did have a referendum. Both sides did not agree, ergo, no solution.

when?


It's called the Annan Plan.


im talking about west trakia(macedonia) thrace ok?


and annan plan referandum wasnt made by YOUUUUUUUUU. it is made by UN. ok?
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