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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:30 pm

Firstly, there is no evidence the Americans have supplied weapons to Aleppo based rebels. All footage of these weapons has revealed no evidence of any such thing. Not saying the haven't and even if they did, they are well justified.

The coalition has been however providing food and medicine, but this aid can't get through and Russia did bomb one of these convoys carrying coalition aid.

There is evidence however that the coalition has been supplying arms to the Kurds.

The coalition has no interest in assisting Assad who is a War Criminal. We will supply the rebels with whatever is necessary. It's our choice and we do not recognize Assad in any official capacity.

One day, Assad will come to the realization that he has lost the war. His country is destroyed and his leadership credentials and legitimacy to Govern Sunni parts of Syria non-existent!

We directly control all of his airspace and 30% of the ground.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:16 pm

Assad enjoys the support of the majority of the Syrian people. Also the UN recognizes his government. He has NOT lost the war, he will eventually defeat the jihadist rebels.

I thought that Russia also controlled the Syrian skies.

From the numerous rebel groups no individual has yet to emerge as a possible replacement of Assad.
The west has made a dreadful error of judgement in getting involved in the first place.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:19 pm

Assad doesn't enjoy the support of the majority Syrian People. Refugees do not support Assad. Neither do the 10,000 tortured political prisoners or those he bombs with Chemical Weapons.

Wars like the Syrian War do not occur because the incumbent enjoys majority support.

As far as the coalition is concerned, his authority over Syria is invalid and he is a War Criminal!
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:53 pm

Paphitis wrote:Assad doesn't enjoy the support of the majority Syrian People. Refugees do not support Assad. Neither do the 10,000 tortured political prisoners or those he bombs with Chemical Weapons.

Wars like the Syrian War do not occur because the incumbent enjoys majority support.

As far as the coalition is concerned, his authority over Syria is invalid and he is a War Criminal!

Have you any evidence to back up your theories?
What I can find is that the Assad family has ruled a relatively peaceful country for four decades. Brutal yes, but that is quite normal for ME nations.
Unlike Saudi Arabia that is not a secular country, Syria tolerated all religions and did prosper under the Assad family.

What the west has got it self mixed up in is a disgrace. The war and the killing continues because the West fucked up badly.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:57 pm

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Assad doesn't enjoy the support of the majority Syrian People. Refugees do not support Assad. Neither do the 10,000 tortured political prisoners or those he bombs with Chemical Weapons.

Wars like the Syrian War do not occur because the incumbent enjoys majority support.

As far as the coalition is concerned, his authority over Syria is invalid and he is a War Criminal!

Have you any evidence to back up your theories?
What I can find is that the Assad family has ruled a relatively peaceful country for four decades. Brutal yes, but that is quite normal for ME nations.
Unlike Saudi Arabia that is not a secular country, Syria tolerated all religions and did prosper under the Assad family.

What the west has got it self mixed up in is a disgrace. The war and the killing continues because the West fucked up badly.


I have all the evidence you want. Got 6 years of evidence and an entire bloody war to boot

Fact is, you don't get an insurgency of this magnitude from a population that supposedly supports the War Criminal.

He has destroyed Syria. He has bombed civilians, even with Chemical Weapons. The Hague beckons.

Don't worry with who takes over Syria now old chap. The coalition can sort that out too if you prefer.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:09 pm

Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Assad doesn't enjoy the support of the majority Syrian People. Refugees do not support Assad. Neither do the 10,000 tortured political prisoners or those he bombs with Chemical Weapons.

Wars like the Syrian War do not occur because the incumbent enjoys majority support.

As far as the coalition is concerned, his authority over Syria is invalid and he is a War Criminal!

Have you any evidence to back up your theories?
What I can find is that the Assad family has ruled a relatively peaceful country for four decades. Brutal yes, but that is quite normal for ME nations.
Unlike Saudi Arabia that is not a secular country, Syria tolerated all religions and did prosper under the Assad family.

What the west has got it self mixed up in is a disgrace. The war and the killing continues because the West fucked up badly.


I have all the evidence you want. Got 6 years of evidence and an entire bloody war to boot

Fact is, you don't get an insurgency of this magnitude from a population that supposedly supports the War Criminal.

He has destroyed Syria. He has bombed civilians, even with Chemical Weapons. The Hague beckons.

Don't worry with who takes over Syria now old chap. The coalition can sort that out too if you prefer.

Just as they, the coalition, sorted out Iraq and Libya , I suppose.

Syria has been partially destroyed by the rebels aided by the coalition. How the fuck can you have 100 plus groups fighting against the legal and recognized internationally Syrian government ?

Are you by any chance in the belief that if Assad was removed there would be peace in Syria. Come on mate don't be so naive. No credible potential replacement has yet to emerge. The rebels ARE the ones destroying Syria.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:21 pm

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Assad doesn't enjoy the support of the majority Syrian People. Refugees do not support Assad. Neither do the 10,000 tortured political prisoners or those he bombs with Chemical Weapons.

Wars like the Syrian War do not occur because the incumbent enjoys majority support.

As far as the coalition is concerned, his authority over Syria is invalid and he is a War Criminal!

Have you any evidence to back up your theories?
What I can find is that the Assad family has ruled a relatively peaceful country for four decades. Brutal yes, but that is quite normal for ME nations.
Unlike Saudi Arabia that is not a secular country, Syria tolerated all religions and did prosper under the Assad family.

What the west has got it self mixed up in is a disgrace. The war and the killing continues because the West fucked up badly.


I have all the evidence you want. Got 6 years of evidence and an entire bloody war to boot

Fact is, you don't get an insurgency of this magnitude from a population that supposedly supports the War Criminal.

He has destroyed Syria. He has bombed civilians, even with Chemical Weapons. The Hague beckons.

Don't worry with who takes over Syria now old chap. The coalition can sort that out too if you prefer.

Just as they, the coalition, sorted out Iraq and Libya , I suppose.

Syria has been partially destroyed by the rebels aided by the coalition. How the fuck can you have 100 plus groups fighting against the legal and recognized internationally Syrian government ?

Are you by any chance in the belief that if Assad was removed there would be peace in Syria. Come on mate don't be so naive. No credible potential replacement has yet to emerge. The rebels ARE the ones destroying Syria.


Iraq is doing just fine.

We give enough rope and generally leave them all be. However, when it becomes apparent that the local administration isn't looking after the Sunnis equally as Iraqis, we withdraw our support and a new administration takes hold.

As for Libya, it is really up to them to sort their own problems. We never created the issues nor are we responsible for the clean up.

In Egypt, we let Mubarak go because that is what the people wanted. Look at them now. Again, not our issue as long as the Egyptians are able to maintain some Control.

As for Syria, we are now after a War Criminal. This War Criminal no longer has any legitimacy or authority so we owe no explanation as to our motives other than justice being seen to be done.

You can make the same arguments about Afghanistan but before the Taliban were in power. It's now up to the Afghans to maintain security. We can help but we will not do it all for them.

And yet some of our Islamic Client states are among the most stable governments on the planet - UAE and Qatar. And they don't repress the people either.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Maximus » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:56 pm

With all due respect to you Paphitis, your talking too much b@!!@ about Syria, Iraq etc.....
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:03 pm

Those talking bollocks are those who support Assad and the extermination of Sunnis with cluster and barrel bombs as well as Chemical weapons.

These are War Crimes.

Not to mention the deliberate targeting of hospitals, and the blockade tactics.

Iraq is in good hands and under control. It is a country with a bright future. The Iraqis are very much in control.

Syria on the other hand has no future under Assad. It's over!

So you keep your so called due respect which means the opposite because I will tell you straight that I don't have any respect for anyone who condones War Crimes. There is no due respect in War Crimes. Just criminality and debauchery of the worse kind.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:25 pm

Paphitis wrote:Those talking bollocks are those who support Assad and the extermination of Sunnis with cluster and barrel bombs as well as Chemical weapons.

Proof ?

These are War Crimes.

Not until proven ?

Not to mention the deliberate targeting of hospitals, and the blockade tactics.

Proof ? It's the 'deliberately targeting' that annoys me. Simple question ..... WHY? As Assad said on his interview for AP "....... it is strange that, if you believe the Western Coalition ..... we are successful in stopping food and medicine ...... but not weapons! Is that really credible? " (It's called common sense .... in case you miss the point)

Iraq is in good hands and under control. It is a country with a bright future. The Iraqis are very much in control.

I would't say that to an Iraqi ........ ask them about the catastrophe in Faluja?

Syria on the other hand has no future under Assad. It's over!

It soon will be ..... when the terrorists are exterminated. So, as the commander of these terrorists ...... STOP GIVING THEM WEAPONS AND AMMUNITION , it will be over in days without more destruction!


So you keep your so called due respect which means the opposite because I will tell you straight that I don't have any respect for anyone who condones War Crimes. There is no due respect in War Crimes. Just criminality and debauchery of the worse kind.

Once again you are very selective in who you consider to have committed war crimes!


As Maximus says ...... you talk a load of crap but as usual like to believe you are the only one in step! You seem to be in a minority on this Forum. :roll:
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