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[Lordo]

there is no terrorists there is america who saw arab spring as a vehicle to remove assad. so they armed and trained them just like they did the taliban. they should have learnt thie lesson from there but americans are very thick unfortunately. the reason they do not learn is becasue they cause the problems and others pay the price.

there is one very simple answer, get out of the middle east and stop financing israel and stop supporting saudi as well as all the other tinpot dictators.

the solution will be even more painfull than it is now but at least it will be local solution for the local people.

in about a hundered years we shall have peace.

[kurupetos]

there is no terrorists there is america who saw arab spring as a vehicle to remove assad. so they armed and trained them just like they did the taliban. they should have learnt thie lesson from there but americans are very thick unfortunately. the reason they do not learn is becasue they cause the problems and others pay the price.

there is one very simple answer, get out of the middle east and stop financing israel and stop supporting saudi as well as all the other tinpot dictators.

the solution will be even more painfull than it is now but at least it will be local solution for the local people.

in about a hundered years we shall have peace.

Do you really believe the crap you post, reh vromoshiro?

[Lordo]

shillaruimmu dje ise sando ligon du mannari

[Robin Hood]

there is no terrorists there is america who saw arab spring as a vehicle to remove assad. so they armed and trained them just like they did the taliban. they should have learnt thie lesson from there but americans are very thick unfortunately. the reason they do not learn is becasue they cause the problems and others pay the price.

there is one very simple answer, get out of the middle east and stop financing israel and stop supporting saudi as well as all the other tinpot dictators.

the solution will be even more painfull than it is now but at least it will be local solution for the local people.

in about a hundered years we shall have peace.

Your first paragraph I could agree with but that is the cause, not the solution.

I am afraid your medicine would kill the patient, in fact it would ensure the death of millions, the creation of millions of more trying to reach a better life as refugees and those that remained would live under a medieval and barbaric regime.

The whole region would need to be contained (Literally completely fenced off) to prevent their spread, trapped within a fortified and heavily defended geographical area. Nothing goes in .... and nothing gets out! All social development and progress inside that area would stop . No cars, no aeroplanes, no TV or radio, no internet, no mobile phones, no medicines ...... in other words ...... back to the dark ages! Those trapped inside this Islamic Paradise would either starve to death when their goats turned the lands into desert, when they run out of water or they will die off through disease.

Now how about dealing with reality? What is a sensible and workable solution, working with what you have, that will avoid killing civilians particularly women and children? I cannot see an alternative to the course being followed by the Syrian Government and their Allies. That WILL eventually lead to the end of the war in Syria but not the end of terrorism ..... I don't think we will ever see an end to that, you can only try to contain/prevent it.

Your solution is pie-in-the-sky and without any practical merit. It is wishful thinking ....a La-La land!. A solution has to be for the here and now.

[Lordo]

quite the reverse, the west has no solution for the area only their interests and how thry can milk it. the problem is the western interests. unless you remove the problem there is no way you can solve it.

there is only one way - remove the west. if the west did not interfere the islmaists would not have taken hold in the area.


it really is not that hard to see.

[Get Real!]

Good posts Lordo.

[Robin Hood]

quite the reverse, the west has no solution for the area only their interests and how thry can milk it. the problem is the western interests. unless you remove the problem there is no way you can solve it.

there is only one way - remove the west. if the west did not interfere the islmaists would not have taken hold in the area.


it really is not that hard to see.

I agreed with your previous first paragraph and agree with you now but that was not the question. It is very simply: How do you bring the conflict in Syria to an end without the risk of killing civilians?

We see endless news footage of the events in Aleppo but apart from calling for a ceasefire on the Government side ..... which has had no effect in the past ..... none of those who spread this idea have a permanent and practical solution. We see what happens when Assad responds to these demands and stops firing, it just gives breathing space to the terrorists and the West a chance to rearm them, but never do we hear vociferous demands from western countries or the UN, for the US to stop arming them or even better for the US and its partners to leave the region completely.

What I would suggest is a reformed United Nations with teeth with all countries represented equally and NO VETO's for major powers. The US is constantly in breach of International law and as Paphitis continually points out, who is going to make them comply? They have set themselves above the law as an exceptional Nation and extend that arrogant protection to those who support them. For the rest ..... the US impose sanctions, completely by passing the UN !!!!!

[Robin Hood]

Clearly, Assad, Putin and their allies in Aleppo are trying their best to reduce civilian casualties ..... so the hot air and criticism from the UN and idiots like Teresa May & Co., are just criticisms of a genuine effort toward a solution by defeating terrorists at minimum cost in civilian lives. The vocal critics in the west have NO solution.

Rolling Back the Empire: Washington’s Proxy-Army Faces Decisive Defeat in Aleppo -By Mike Whitney

Syrian Army helicopters dropped leaflets on parts of eastern Aleppo on Sunday warning anti-government fighters to surrender while they still had the chance. Hundreds of jihadists have already laid down their weapons and surrendered while a hardline corps of deadenders continue to fend off the rapidly advancing army.


On Sunday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov delivered an ultimatum to the remaining militants that clarified the position of the Syrian government and its allies. he said:

“Those groups which refuse to leave eastern Aleppo will be treated as terrorists. By refusing to walk out from eastern Aleppo they will in fact go ahead with armed struggle. We will treat them accordingly, as terrorists and extremists, and support the Syrian army in its operation against such armed gangs.”


More important, the recapturing of Aleppo is a major setback for Washington and its jihadist-breeding allies. (US, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar) US plans for redrawing the map of the Middle East to meet its economic and geopolitical objectives has been defeated by a courageous and determined coalition (Syria, Iran, Russia and Hezbollah) that has methodically routed or exterminated the foreign-backed opposition and re-established both state security and the sovereign authority of the elected government to control its own affairs.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article45994.htm

[miltiades]

" Syrian War Update: Battle for Aleppo nears end as Syrian Army victory appears inevitable

" Barely a handful of neighborhoods are still held by insurgents; should Islamist commanders refuse to relinquish control of their last territory in the provincial capital of Aleppo through diplomacy, the SAA will likely unleash all kinds of firepower to retake it."
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/sy ... nevitable/


One must wonder what happened to the ....Coalition!!

[Maximus]

The coalition? The US has sent stinger missiles to the Syrian Kurdish forces and is "facilitating talks" with them and the Turks to ease tensions.

In other words, kurdistan is coming.