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Re: The war against drugs

Postby apc2010 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:11 pm

Right, took drugs.............had a giggle....never lost my job, killed anybody,caused any fights...........just had a good time and listened to some great music....decided to stop .....
no ill effects but some great memories,,,,

And no tax on any of it ....bonus......


Check out alcohol illness/deaths compared to drugs .....interesting reading...
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Re: The war against drugs

Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:15 am

Some good points apc…

Wasted on GIG though I’m afraid – she thinks all drugs should be banned…

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Cyprus is NOT a drug dealer and does NOT need to prostitute itself taxing mind-altering, life-destroying drugs. They need to be banned and removed from our streets. Kids need to be educated on the dangers of succumbing to these toxic chemicals.


She probably approves of plain packs for cigarettes, advertising bans for booze and fags and cigarettes being hidden in shops – for the chiillldrrreeen!

Yet here we have a product which has been banned for years, which is never advertised, which is not sold in glitzy packs and which has to be obtained from dubious characters operating outside of the law… And every year it becomes more and more popular!

What does this find tell GIG about the drugs market…? She probably thinks that it is a huge blow, that drugs will become unavailable and that the war on drugs is being won. As is so often the case, she would be wrong…

Firstly, it tells you it is VAST! Bigger than she can ever imagine… Remember, this is just one seizure – we have no idea of knowing how many others get through to supply the demand…

It tells you that it doesn’t matter if you ban things – people (and children) will still want them and criminals will be quite happy to supply them and profit from it (see also: Prohibition)…

And what do you think the effect of this will be? Even if it affects the availability and pushes up the street price…? Do you think that all the drug addicts in the West will say ‘okay, it’s a fair cop, we’ll give up our habit’…? No.

What will happen is that unscrupulous (and unlicensed) dealers will mix what they have with other substances… it means that addicts will face increased costs and create more crime to fund their addiction…

The ‘war on drugs’ can never be won and fighting it kills more people than die from using the drugs themselves…
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Re: The war against drugs

Postby bigOz » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:17 am

Drugs are only third in line in terms of killing and doing permanent damage to people's health - maybe GIG should consider stopping smoking and drinking first! :)
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Re: The war against drugs

Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:23 am

bigOz wrote:Drugs are only third in line in terms of killing and doing permanent damage to people's health - maybe GIG should consider stopping smoking and drinking first! :)


She should perhaps consider thinking before posting first... :wink:
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Re: The war against drugs

Postby bigOz » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:23 am

I say "make all drugs legal" - that will bring the price and the attraction for international dealers. But that would be too easy - what about hundreds of thousands of policemen, customs officers and prison wardens all over the world IN EVERY COUNTRY who are helping many big dealers in turn for filling up their pockets? AND where would the revenue come from for illegal arms purchases, without the billions of Euros / dollars earned from drugs :lol:
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Re: The war against drugs

Postby bigOz » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:30 am

cyprusgrump! I just realised you are from Pissouri! Hey! That is right next to my father's village Alektora. My family had hundreds of donums of vineyards there until the 74 war! I do not care for the land at this time but I would love to see the village again - I used to spend 3 months at a time there during my summer holidays when very young. There was no elctricity or asphalt roads then, but for a child it was a very exciting experience. What a beautiful area of Cyprus that region is - I really miss it! :(
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Re: The war against drugs

Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:30 am

bigOz wrote:I say "make all drugs legal" - that will bring the price and the attraction for international dealers. But that would be too easy - what about hundreds of thousands of policemen, customs officers and prison wardens all over the world IN EVERY COUNTRY who are helping many big dealers in turn for filling up their pockets? AND where would the revenue come from for illegal arms purchases, without the billions of Euros / dollars earned from drugs :lol:


They should of course be made legal...

But you do raise a good point about the vested interests all over the world who wish to retrain the status quo...

That is why there cannot be a debate about legalising drugs - it is shouted down by those who profit from the trade. And of course the hard-of-thinking like GIG who believe everything that the media tells them...
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Re: The war against drugs

Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:32 am

bigOz wrote:cyprusgrump! I just realised you are from Pissouri! Hey! That is right next to my father's village Alektora. My family had hundreds of donums of vineyards there until the 74 war! I do not care for the land at this time but I would love to see the village again - I used to spend 3 months at a time there during my summer holidays when very young. There was no elctricity or asphalt roads then, but for a child it was a very exciting experience. What a beautiful area of Cyprus that region is - I really miss it! :(


Yes I do!

Would you like me to take some pictures for you...?

We used to walk into Alektora quite frequently, haven't been for a year or two now though...
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Re: The war against drugs

Postby bigOz » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:53 am

I think I shall sum up the courage to actually visit it this summer (I live in Girne). I was going to do it last year but I had no idea what the reception of a (former owner) TC would be in the village. Maybe I should just keep quiet about being from there and go as a normal visitor. My cousin visited 2 years ago and apparently the villagers showed no animosity but were very nice to them. I know from old days that TCs and GCs in that region always worked in harmony and traded with each other with no problems throughout the 60s and 70s - albeit mostly in their own villages. There were even many mixed marriages in the area :)
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Re: The war against drugs

Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:03 pm

bigOz wrote:I think I shall sum up the courage to actually visit it this summer (I live in Girne). I was going to do it last year but I had no idea what the reception of a (former owner) TC would be in the village. Maybe I should just keep quiet about being from there and go as a normal visitor. My cousin visited 2 years ago and apparently the villagers showed no animosity but were very nice to them. I know from old days that TCs and GCs in that region always worked in harmony and traded with each other with no problems throughout the 60s and 70s - albeit mostly in their own villages. There were even many mixed marriages in the area :)


You must come and see us then! :D
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