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Re: The war against drugs

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:38 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Oh I see, CG is throwing a strop because someone has a different opinion to his...


Show me your opinion on this thread...

You don't have one - you just have insults and off-topic comments. :roll:


This was your "fine" opening contribution to this topic:

cyprusgrump wrote:The war against drugs - drugs winning! :lol:


So, I rightfully objected to this situation being "funny". Then, being prompted with a "Why?" from you, I tried to opt out of the predictable arguing over differences of opinion with a classic Daily Mail reader.
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Re: The war against drugs

Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:44 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Oh I see, CG is throwing a strop because someone has a different opinion to his...


Show me your opinion on this thread...

You don't have one - you just have insults and off-topic comments. :roll:


This was your "fine" opening contribution to this topic:

cyprusgrump wrote:The war against drugs - drugs winning! :lol:


So, I rightfully objected to this situation being "funny". Then, being prompted with a "Why?" from you, I tried to opt out of the predictable arguing over differences of opinion with a classic Daily Mail reader.


Yes, you accused me of being 'out of my head'...

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Oh that is sooo funny. :roll: You are clearly out of your head!


Yet, you still haven't said why, justified that response or given your own opinion on the subject (if you have one)...

As for the Daily Mail - they are known to be just about anti-everything so I'm sure I don't share my libertarian views with them or any of their readers...

So, are you going to contribute to the debate or just keep trolling this thread...?
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Re: The war against drugs

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:39 pm

I'd say it's up to you to explain yourself as to why you think it's funny to lose the war against drugs, Mr Libertarian.
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Re: The war against drugs

Postby Schnauzer » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:20 pm

Had this thread been opened under the title of "Iran's Christmas Gift" (or something similar which might have allowed some in-depth discussion) cyprusgrump would surely not have seized upon the opportunity to treat the subject with such levity.

Unfortunately, Iran is currently subject to a great deal of hostile media coverage and I personally think it rather sad that this 'Christmas Gift' (as it is described) will not be received with the good grace it deserves.

I am sure that every one of us is aware of the damage caused by 'MISUSE' of drugs and the consequences of addiction to them, however, since the disadvantages to the health of society in general seem to outweigh the advantages (particularly among the young), I am persuaded that the control of distribution is superior to ANY other form providing such control is directed towards the elimination of addiction.

As to 'Cannabis', I regard the (positive and negative) use of it as an entirely separate issue, perhaps the popularity of it in certain circumstances, prompts those who use it socially, to sanction the free use of other substances and I do believe that such an attitude is a mistaken one.

Overindulgence of ANY form of hallucinatory substance will eventually prove harmful therefore, (since we all know this) a calmer and more reasonable debate on the subject of Iran's 'Gift' to the European society (and elsewhere) might produce something better than an attack on a 'Lady' who merely raised an objection to a little frivolity which in all probability was quite unintentional. (imho) :wink:
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Re: The war against drugs

Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:25 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:I'd say it's up to you to explain yourself as to why you think it's funny to lose the war against drugs, Mr Libertarian.


Because it is a war that can never be won...

Because we spend billions fighting it, hundreds of thousands lose their lives fighting it...

Because we are no further forward with banning drugs than we were when we started...

Because it is no business of the government what we put in our bodies...

And because when the thread started I realised that stupid people like you who believe everything the Daily Mail trots out would inevitably be along soon to say how evil drugs are and how they should be banned to protect the children...

Now I'd say it is up to you to explain yourself and put forward a sensible argument as to why I am wrong instead of merely accusing me of being high or otherwise insulting me... Wouldn't you...?
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Re: The war against drugs

Postby Schnauzer » Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:08 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:

Wiki wrote:In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.


cyprusgrump wrote:STUD is going to love this! :D


Providing the discussion gets back on topic !. :lol:
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Re: The war against drugs

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:38 am

Why if the war is being won do people like policemen suggest legalization, as even chief constables in the UK sometimes do?
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Re: The war against drugs

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:55 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:Why if the war is being won do people like policemen suggest legalization, as even chief constables in the UK sometimes do?


Exactly!

Thankfully there are glimmers of hope that an alternative to 'the war on drugs' and a more liberal attitude is being forced on governments... The liberalisation of drugs in Portugal being a prime example...
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Re: The war against drugs

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:15 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:Why if the war is being won do people like policemen suggest legalization, as even chief constables in the UK sometimes do?


Perhaps they have a pile of confiscated drugs they would like to sell off now?

Gawd help us from a country that allows its "chief constables" to change the laws. Generals next ...
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Re: The war against drugs

Postby Schnauzer » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:42 pm

The irresponsible use of drugs is very often a precursor to serious crime.

The addicted are very often inclined to commit criminal acts in order to finance their addiction.

Responsible citizens (of any nation) decry the prospect of witnessing their children being drawn yet further into a culture of a drug (or alcohol) induced euphoria, the damage caused by 'MISUSE' of either or both of these is obvious wherever such 'MISUSE' is (rapidly becoming) an accepted daily spectacle.

Those who advocate the legalization of the class of drugs known to be (and proven to be) detrimental to health, usually do so out of self interest, confused perhaps by their own little forays into the unknown and mysterious land of "WOW!"! which is the only place which enables them to enjoy their sad lives.

The occasional 'Joint' (if we must be sucked into the jargon) is not quite such an issue providing the user has the intelligence enough to avoid excess, the trouble is, they usually are not.

I would have thought that THIS thread would have developed into an intelligent exchange of views directed toward 'Praise' for the efforts of the Iranian authorities which are apparently the major barrier to an increasingly serious problem in Western society.

Whatever the outcome of 'Lawful Intervention' by those who are empowered to make decisions, I doubt if 'Heroine' (and other such substances) will ever be made freely available to those who regard a 'Buzz' as the ultimate pleasure of their lives, certainly such folk will hardly be able to force their governments to legalize such potentially damaging drugs.

They can all 'Buzz Off' as far as I am concerned. :wink:
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