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[Lordo]

yes yes yes i like bravado. its a good pretense but we know what you are like. when you get whacked second time maybe then you will realise your true place in life. who knows it make take a third if there is anything left.

[Get Real!]

yes yes yes i like bravado. its a good pretense but we know what you are like. when you get whacked second time maybe then you will realise your true place in life. who knows it make take a third if there is anything left.

Well you got whacked in 63 and then again in 67 because you didn’t learn your lesson the first time so you then run to mommy for assistance.

When are you gonna stand up and fight like men instead of hiding behind the Turkish vraka?

[Lordo]

it is easy to whack an isolated village tanks when they have a couple of shotguns you stupid boy. especially when you have 12,000 greek soldiers backing you.

in 67 you took one village and crapped out, especially the greek soldiers all want home except the ones you kept in the national guard to help you invite the terggs into cyprus in 74. how clever was that.

now lets see if you have balls. attack if you dare. what are you waiting for. do you have the balls or a butto.

[Pyrpolizer]

I voted no for the Anan Plan. But I know damn well I cannot vote "No" again.
Gas is the only thing that might save us....

Why you can not vote No again? Any plan that they present to us should be vastly better if they expect the majority to vote for it. But if they bring more of the same then voting No will be again the only real choice.

Because this time the plan will be agreed by our leadership. And voting no is like voting for partition/ recognition of the occupied. You don't want to know what this would mean....

[Lordo]

tell him straight so even he can understand. the world is sick of you and your stupidity.

if partition is what you want then vote no and partition you will get. now do you understand it.

[B25]

I voted no for the Anan Plan. But I know damn well I cannot vote "No" again.
Gas is the only thing that might save us....

Why you can not vote No again? Any plan that they present to us should be vastly better if they expect the majority to vote for it. But if they bring more of the same then voting No will be again the only real choice.

Because this time the plan will be agreed by our leadership. And voting no is like voting for partition/ recognition of the occupied. You don't want to know what this would mean....

Our leadership, haha pull the otherone. Oulli poulimeni yia ton lemon tous.

Im with Sotos on this one, anything resembling the Ankara Plan is a no no.

Oh and in case you haven't realised we already have a pseudo pertition. Let them have 18%, and they can do what the hell they want with it.

[Sotos]

I voted no for the Anan Plan. But I know damn well I cannot vote "No" again.
Gas is the only thing that might save us....

Why you can not vote No again? Any plan that they present to us should be vastly better if they expect the majority to vote for it. But if they bring more of the same then voting No will be again the only real choice.

Because this time the plan will be agreed by our leadership. And voting no is like voting for partition/ recognition of the occupied. You don't want to know what this would mean....

Sorry but that is nonsense. The same nonsense that was said before we rejected the Annan plan. In fact we didn't even have to negotiate with them. There are several other pseudo-states like them and none of them got recognized. Russia and China (which has Taiwan) will never vote for the recognition of the pseudo-state no matter what. And the Americans and the British will not recognize them either because then we can create a ton of problems to the operation of their bases and we will give bases to the Russians and the Chinese right next to theirs. They will have nothing to gain from recognizing the pseudo-state so they will not. And why would our leadership agree to something similar to the Annan plan when we rejected that already? Any "leader" that does such thing would obviously be a traitor. Last time they had the excuse that they didn't know what people wanted. Now they can't have this excuse. But for the sake of argument lets say the pseudo-state gets recognized. In what way would that be worst than something like Annan plan for the majority of Cypriots?

[Get Real!]

it is easy to whack an isolated village tanks when they have a couple of shotguns you stupid boy. especially when you have 12,000 greek soldiers backing you.

in 67 you took one village and crapped out, especially the greek soldiers all want home except the ones you kept in the national guard to help you invite the terggs into cyprus in 74. how clever was that.

now lets see if you have balls. attack if you dare. what are you waiting for. do you have the balls or a butto.

Re Tourko-boutto, putting the bullshit aside because as you know I don’t beat around the bush but talk straight… if mommy Turkey was to step aside the CNG will be in Kyrenia in like 4 hours and you’ll be ducking by the seaside lowering your pants hoping they’ll use a little grease!

[Lordo]

it is easy to whack an isolated village tanks when they have a couple of shotguns you stupid boy. especially when you have 12,000 greek soldiers backing you.

in 67 you took one village and crapped out, especially the greek soldiers all want home except the ones you kept in the national guard to help you invite the terggs into cyprus in 74. how clever was that.

now lets see if you have balls. attack if you dare. what are you waiting for. do you have the balls or a butto.

Re Tourko-boutto, putting the bullshit aside because as you know I don’t beat around the bush but talk straight… if mommy Turkey was to step aside the CNG will be in Kyrenia in like 4 hours and you’ll be ducking by the seaside lowering your pants hoping they’ll use a little grease!

this is from experience is it. is this what they did to you last time.

you start a fight if you have balls. whats a keepin you.

[Pyrpolizer]

I voted no for the Anan Plan. But I know damn well I cannot vote "No" again.
Gas is the only thing that might save us....

Why you can not vote No again? Any plan that they present to us should be vastly better if they expect the majority to vote for it. But if they bring more of the same then voting No will be again the only real choice.

Because this time the plan will be agreed by our leadership. And voting no is like voting for partition/ recognition of the occupied. You don't want to know what this would mean....

Sorry but that is nonsense. The same nonsense that was said before we rejected the Annan plan. In fact we didn't even have to negotiate with them. There are several other pseudo-states like them and none of them got recognized. Russia and China (which has Taiwan) will never vote for the recognition of the pseudo-state no matter what. And the Americans and the British will not recognize them either because then we can create a ton of problems to the operation of their bases and we will give bases to the Russians and the Chinese right next to theirs. They will have nothing to gain from recognizing the pseudo-state so they will not. And why would our leadership agree to something similar to the Annan plan when we rejected that already? Any "leader" that does such thing would obviously be a traitor. Last time they had the excuse that they didn't know what people wanted. Now they can't have this excuse. But for the sake of argument lets say the pseudo-state gets recognized. In what way would that be worst than something like Annan plan for the majority of Cypriots?

One step at a time! who said our leadership will agree to something similar to the Anan plan? That would be very unlikely.
But don't expect miracles. By the minute we agreed to BBF with some territorial adjustments we have already given more than what we will
take without even knowing the exact percentages. Next: we are in the EU. people themselves did not commit any crime by being settlers. Like it or not as per EU aquis they have rights. No matter what we do a certain number will stay. One more step in having to give more than what we will take. The list could go endlessly. If you take the property issue: You cannot throw anyone out of what according to human rights it's now his "home". You have to allow him a logical time to relocate,or pay rent or whatever. I don't expect these issues to be left to the individuals. Most probably there will be a procedure in the plan. In a nutshell absolutely no-one will be able to return during the first year including Varoshiotes (these for other reasons). To this point we have given everything and got nothing!
Let aside hundreds of other issues...
if we go by this logic there is no way anyone should have reasons to vote yes.
Any new plan , should be better way better than the Anan plan, but let's digest it it will still be bitter.Letting ourselves decide emotionally will just make us candy asses.

The recognition issue: You are talking for the kind of recognition a country gets in the UN. It doesn't have to be like that but I will not go into the details. Basically the occupied don't need recognition, all they need is direct trade and direct flights=tourism. There are already a lot of EU countries that just need an excuse to bypass us completely -the Scandinavians being top. Do you think they will miss that chance? Do you have to actually see it happening to get convinced? And please don't underestimate the British. You think we can play games with them and give bases to the Russians LOL. Just think we play the bravados, they abandon Dhekelia and the Turkish army gets in and takes half of it. What are we going to do, just tell me? same thing we did when they took Strovilia, cry at the UN and get useless papers?