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Re: Propaganda Crimes and War crimes

Postby Get Real! » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:21 pm

cypriotnado wrote:
Maximus wrote:What we have been witnessing in Cyprus for the past 41 years is a result of hate and war crimes and the reason why a solution has not been found until now.

Do you support a democratic solution in Cyprus Cypriotnado, the return of every ones property, restitution for the settlers back in Turkey and the end of the illegal Turkish occupation?


I already answered the question. By democratic I guess you mean one person one vote. I dont support that as both communities need to accept any solution. That was wrong with 1960 it was imposed on Greek Cypriots. Yes to settlers returning but I guess some will stay. Like it or not. Yes to end of occupation - no troops at all. Yes to people getting homes back but as I said its not real,many people accept that as fact. For myself I wish the talks well!

Do you speak both Greek and Turkish?
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Re: Propaganda Crimes and War crimes

Postby Sotos » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:23 pm

If the majority of Turks stop being racists supporting "solutions" based on the results of ethnic cleansing then the basis for the negotiations will stop being BBF.
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Re: Propaganda Crimes and War crimes

Postby Get Real! » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:24 pm

Sotos wrote:If the majority of Turks stop being racists supporting "solutions" based on the results of ethnic cleansing then the basis for the negotiations will stop being BBF.

Our successive governments are also guilty of this treason starting with Makarios who invented this shit!
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Re: Propaganda Crimes and War crimes

Postby Sotos » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:31 pm

tsukoui wrote:
Maximus wrote:What we have been witnessing in Cyprus for the past 41 years is a result of hate and war crimes and the reason why a solution has not been found until now.

Do you support a democratic solution in Cyprus Cypriotnado,
- the return of every ones property,
- restitution for the settlers back in Turkey and
- the end of the illegal Turkish occupation?

Forget it, we saw what happened to their support for the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka...


Tsuk .. everyone is entitled to their opinion but it seems that what you post is just random shit. Are you some failed AI bot that found its way to our forum? :lol: To prove that you are not a bot please take each second letter of every word in this sentence and provide the resulting string, capitalizing the letters that are contained in my username.
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Re: Propaganda Crimes and War crimes

Postby Maximus » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:36 pm

cypriotnado wrote:
Maximus wrote:What we have been witnessing in Cyprus for the past 41 years is a result of hate and war crimes and the reason why a solution has not been found until now.

Do you support a democratic solution in Cyprus Cypriotnado, the return of every ones property, restitution for the settlers back in Turkey and the end of the illegal Turkish occupation?


I already answered the question. By democratic I guess you mean one person one vote. I dont support that as both communities need to accept any solution. That was wrong with 1960 it was imposed on Greek Cypriots. Yes to settlers returning but I guess some will stay. Like it or not. Yes to end of occupation - no troops at all. Yes to people getting homes back but as I said its not real,many people accept that as fact. For myself I wish the talks well!


Yes, democracy is one man one vote but it is also more than that. If you think it was wrong to impose an undemocratic solution on the Greek Cypriots in 1960, why do you support an undemocratic one now? This alone will get a no vote from the Greek Cypriots and an undemocratic solution would not be compatible with the EU acquis.

People getting their property back should be accepted as fact because this is something that has prevented a just solution. Where its not possible, in a minority of cases, then Turkey should compensate.

If Turkey can colonize and Turkify north Cyprus, she can also reverse it.

These are the hate crimes in Cyprus;
No democracy and basic freedoms,
Racist segregation,
Occupation and colonization,
Theft of peoples property.

The Greek Cypriots are not guilt of any of these and never have been.
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Re: Propaganda Crimes and War crimes

Postby Sotos » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:37 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Sotos wrote:If the majority of Turks stop being racists supporting "solutions" based on the results of ethnic cleansing then the basis for the negotiations will stop being BBF.

Our successive governments are also guilty of this treason starting with Makarios who invented this shit!


He didn't invent it ... he accepted it because he was blackmailed. But he was wrong to accept it.
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Re: Propaganda Crimes and War crimes

Postby Toran » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:00 pm

well everyone seems to be off a bit anything that i written is what i meant and if everyone has their own opinion it's their right. Now every fact that happened will never be documented and if it was the names of who started what is not mentioned. Though the right thing to do i believe as my opinion is finding every name who did who knows what no matter the side no matter if he killed G C or T C, he or she, powerful or weak must be send to trial .

i dont think anyone who lost a loved one would say no to that idea.

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Re: Propaganda Crimes and War crimes

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:43 pm

We should separate the crimes of individuals from the crimes of governments.

For sure, individuals should be tried, where possible, whenever a crime is committed. But the crimes of individuals cannot be used as time-wasting excuses for not moving forward with ending the much larger and more devastating effects from crimes of governments.

Right now, the only government committing a crime is TURKEY with its worldwide acknowledged illegal occupation of nearly half of Cyprus!

So let's FOCUS if we want to free Cyprus.

War crimes have been committed by TURKEY.

War crimes are STILL committed by Turkey.

So, let us focus on removing Turkey from Cyprus.

[Turks are notoriously indifferent to decisions by Courts anyway, so is there much reason in pursuing trials when Turkey does not follow up its obligations?]
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Re: Propaganda Crimes and War crimes

Postby erolz66 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:44 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote: It would have been better for South Africa to have removed white man back to Europe,


Nothing would have granted, morally and legally, a white South African community a separate and equal right to 'self determination' in their own shared homeland, more than an attempt by Black South Africans to unilaterally impose this, in the eyes of anyone except a fanatic.
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