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Re: In memory of Charly...

Postby denizaksulu » Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:24 pm

miltiades wrote:A curse ? Timing ? Who knows. Charly was after all 72, we all have to go someday. Death, as tragic as it is its perfectly normal, a journey older people inevitably embark upon. What is tragic is when a young person who has hardly lived reaches the ultimate.

Considering attending the funeral in Limassol, but how can I , cancer has been my nightmare for years now. Members of my family, not related to each other, there was young Harry, age 22, my sister age 63 then at the same age my late wife .

Charly and I were not only brothers in law but bloody good mates, worked together, run businesses together and drunk together. I enjoyed his company and he mine. I must attend ...

Caroline is my sons wife, 41 years old. In semi coma for weeks now, cancer in the brain. Unable to stand, walk, eat drink or perform any bodily functions. My son is devastated, relies on me for support, sends me numerous texts daily from Cornwall where he took Caroline to her parents house about 6 weeks ago, doctors say, final stages, could be today, tomorrow this week or next.

My son needs me here, my Cyprus family want me to attend in Cyprus, torn between loyalty to my son and paying my last respects to Charly. I don't know what to do, may come for the day.

I say goodbye my friends for a little while. try to get my self together.



Hi Miltiades, So sorry to hear the news of Caroline. So young to be so afflicted. Difficult times lay ahead. Be strong as I know you can.
Also RiP Charlie.
All the best. God give all the family strength and patience.
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Re: In memory of Charly...

Postby miltiades » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:20 am

My dear friend Deniz, thank you for your wishes. You met Caroline a few times here at the store.

Gery is still here, we are all going to Cornwall for the ceremony.
Speak soon mate.

S, do ignore derogatory remarks by some. Having been on the CYforum for over 9 years, I think most know that Im an open book. My outlet when times are hard. As I live on my own i find solace at expressing my emotions on the forum, those that dissagree do not have to interact, simple.
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Re: In memory of Charly...

Postby Paphitis » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:47 am

I have to agree that there is absolutely no harm if CF is an outlet which offers respite and solace.

It's a free forum to be used as you like.
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Re: In memory of Charly...

Postby umit07 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:17 pm

Please accept my condolences Miltiades. Don't take notice of the trolls, if you find some solace in posting here feel free to do so.
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Re: In memory of Charly...

Postby Sotos » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:34 pm

I am sorry about the bad developments Milti. Don't feel bad for not attending the funeral ... you did the right thing under the circumstances.
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Re: In memory of Charly...

Postby miltiades » Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:35 pm

Charly was laid to rest on Friday, August 14th.
Caroline passed away the following day, August 15th.
I made the RIGHT DECISION.

When my son rung me with the dreadful news on Saturday early evening, I was here for him.

I made an agonizing decision, Charly was not only a brother in law but a real mate, he would understand the horrid predicament that I was facing. Some said I could have flown on the day and back the same. A 69 year old man sees life a little different, young naïve and emotionally undeveloped could not understand this .

Caroline will be cremated on Wednesday August 26th, it was her wish, a very feminine girl who just did not want to be .....

She adored my grand children and they her,
RIP my beautiful Caroline.
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Re: In memory of Charly...

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:51 am

cheers milti.
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Re: In memory of Charly...

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:01 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Milty has an extended family and a large base of friends so I'm not surprised he is called upon to be in two places at once.

All I can say, to counter those morons making things difficult for him, is that it's easy enough for those with only one commitment in life to make such *easy* decisions - as jet here and jet back before someone dies - but for most people (and I have been in Milty's shoes) trying to be in two places over a short period of time is just not feasible.

Right now he has at least TWO people living a hellishly desperate situation through the pending death of his daughter-in-law and I'm sure the Orthodox Way and most morally correct thing to do in his situation is to be with the TWO people living instead of being with ONE now departed. Furthermore, if you are familiar with the Orthodox Way, you will know there are many memorial days on which to remember the departed and these are commitments which have been explicitly set up for such situations whereby, sometimes, some people cannot be in TWO places at the same time!


Fully agree with you on this.

I sincerely hope that GR and Gavranoss never have to make the same choice.
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Re: In memory of Charly... and of Caroline. RIP.

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:10 am

miltiades wrote:Charly was my beloved brother in law. He knew of Caroline's illness and would understand my predicament, as indeed most of you with the exception of, on the other hand, I will leave this for another time.

Caroline had been in comma for 3 days, my beloved daughter in law has now passed away, 4 days after my brother in law. She was a mere 41 years old !!!

My worst fears have been realized, I will stand by my son, 20 years they had been together ...


My most sincere condolences on your second tragic loss in such a short space of time. As Uncle to your son, I am sure Charly would have thoroughly understood.
Keep Strong Milti, for your son and for your self.
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Re: In memory of Charly...

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:21 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Milty has an extended family and a large base of friends so I'm not surprised he is called upon to be in two places at once.

All I can say, to counter those morons making things difficult for him, is that it's easy enough for those with only one commitment in life to make such *easy* decisions - as jet here and jet back before someone dies - but for most people (and I have been in Milty's shoes) trying to be in two places over a short period of time is just not feasible.

Right now he has at least TWO people living a hellishly desperate situation through the pending death of his daughter-in-law and I'm sure the Orthodox Way and most morally correct thing to do in his situation is to be with the TWO people living instead of being with ONE now departed. Furthermore, if you are familiar with the Orthodox Way, you will know there are many memorial days on which to remember the departed and these are commitments which have been explicitly set up for such situations whereby, sometimes, some people cannot be in TWO places at the same time!


Fully agree with you on this.

I sincerely hope that GR and Gavranoss never have to make the same choice.


So true.

I had the onerous task of organising my mother's funeral here in Cyprus a few years ago. In Cyprus, they seem to move from decease to funeral very quickly. If I recall correctly, she passed away on a Tuesday evening and was buried on the Friday morning of the same week. Of course, I found my mother's address book and phoned everybody listed there on the Wednesday to tell them of the bad news and let them know that the funeral was taking place the day after tomorrow. As far as I recall, the only people to make it out from the UK for the funeral were my brother and sisters, and of course people will drop everything and spare no expense to attend their own mother's funeral. I would never dream of holding anything against her friends and family in the UK who did not come for the funeral. It is no easy matter to drop all of your plans for the day after tomorrow and not everybody has the money for the return air fare to Cyprus just sitting around, either. There are other indicators of how much people have been affected by the loss of a loved one than mere physical attendance at their funeral.
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