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Russian airliner crash ... it almost happened before!

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:34 am

No wonder Putin was pissed off with Cameron during his telephone conversation yesterday ...... "The Department for Transport confirmed the Thomson near-miss incident took place on August 23 – just two months before the Metrojet plane crash."

A British holiday jet avoids a missile attack at Sharm and they didn’t bother to inform anybody else!!!!!!!! :x :x :x

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3307741/Rocket-attack-UK-tour-jet.html#ixzz3qmSLs3VV
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:09 am

And you believed that a passenger plane (1) has any way of knowing about incoming missiles, and (2) is capable of “dodging” missiles even though they travel several times faster than the plane? :)
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Postby Robin Hood » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:53 am

Get Real! wrote:And you believed that a passenger plane (1) has any way of knowing about incoming missiles, and (2) is capable of “dodging” missiles even though they travel several times faster than the plane? :)


I posted the article, which is all over the news broadcasts this morning BECAUSE it had been verified by The Dept. of Transport. Apparently it passed within 300mof the aircraft.

That was an informed source .... your reply is just your ill-informed opinion. Tell me ........ have you ever flown an aircraft, do you know what view you get through a 180 deg. window, at 1000' travelling at around 120mph? You don't have a clue, your just a gob-on-a-stick! :roll: :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:03 pm

Pootin is creating a beat up!

Cameron is under no obligation under any regulations that I know of to report the Thompson Incident to the Russians.

Under Air Law, the incident is reportable as follows:
1) Pilots must lodge an Aviation Incident Report (ASAIR) to their Chief Pilot who will forward the ASAIR to Safety,
2) Thompson Safety is to investigate the ASAIR in accordance with Thompson Safety Management Systems,
3) Thompson has 24 hours to submit this ASAIR to the British Regulator - Civil Aviation Authority,
4) The regulator forwards the report to the Air Transport Safety Board who will investigate the incident in conjunction with Thompson, and Civil Aviation Authority. A report is due within 30 days of the incident,
5) The CAA must report the incident to the Egyptian Regulator who would commence their own investigation.

All these steps were completed by Thompson and the conclusion was that it was a military projectile from a nearby Egyptian Military Exercise. It was not a missile and it would be unlikely that the airliner would escape if it was some kind of MANPAD.

The report should be publically available on the Internet and I will find it when I have the time.

But as for Pootin criticizing Cameron, well I have little sympathy. The British Government did what they had to do under law. They are under no obligation to do anything else and the Egyptian Authorities would be the spearhead of the investigation since the incident occurred in their jurisdiction. They too are under no other International Obligations other than to conduct the investigation.

Also, the International Community, the British Government, Dutch Government, German Government, Australian Government, and Malaysian Government still await for Pootin's full cooperation on the downing of MH17 which was bought down by a BUK Missile.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:43 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Get Real! wrote:And you believed that a passenger plane (1) has any way of knowing about incoming missiles, and (2) is capable of “dodging” missiles even though they travel several times faster than the plane? :)


I posted the article, which is all over the news broadcasts this morning BECAUSE it had been verified by The Dept. of Transport. Apparently it passed within 300mof the aircraft.

That was an informed source .... your reply is just your ill-informed opinion. Tell me ........ have you ever flown an aircraft, do you know what view you get through a 180 deg. window, at 1000' travelling at around 120mph? You don't have a clue, your just a gob-on-a-stick! :roll: :lol:

Dude... it's GARBAGE! :lol: Stop reading tabloid junk like the Express, Mail, Guardian… they’re all RUBBISH!

Read the reader responses below the article... some of the more informed readers say the same thing I told you.

In future start using that pea in your head. :wink:
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Re: Russian airliner crash ... it almost happened before!

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:04 pm

Paphitis:
Cameron is under no obligation under any regulations that I know of to report the Thompson Incident to the Russians.

Really? So if it had been a British tourist flight that had been bought down, then it transpired that a Russian flight had been ‘attacked’ two months before and Putin decided not to tell anyone ...... you would have been OK with that?

My arse! You would have been at Putin’s throat for being at least criminally irresponsible if not just a murdering bastard. This is what Cameron did when he kept mum and, not only that, he put the lives of thousands of other UK tourists at risk as well as Russian tourists.
All these steps were completed by Thompson and the conclusion was that it was a military projectile from a nearby Egyptian Military Exercise. It was not a missile and it would be unlikely that the airliner would escape if it was some kind of MANPAD.

Again apply a bit of common sense! A military exercise using ‘missiles’ on the approach glide path to an airport that, whilst quite small airfield, had a large volume of civilian traffic? Sorry, that is just not plausible.

The ‘missile’ comment I agree with, people will automatically think ‘guided missile’ ...... but an anti-tank rocket( 'unguided missile’ ..... low speed proportionally[/i]) fired at an aircraft at that height and speed certainly had a possibility that it would strike its target.
The British Government did what they had to do under law.

Sorry, that is bullshit! What law says you must not tell if a civilian airliner is aimed at, even though it missed?
Also, the International Community, the British Government, Dutch Government, German Government, Australian Government, and Malaysian Government still await for Pootin's (The mans name is Putin ..... you do not have to mimic the Yanks ignorance and disrespect!) full cooperation on the downing of MH17 that was bought down by a BUK Missile.

You are quick to present the law as a defence. The law also says innocent UNTIL proven guilty and the ones that have the evidence to prove Putin's 'guilt', if their accusations are true on the downing of MH17, are the US and Ukraine Governments respectively.

Now ask yourself .... why did Cameron keep his mouth shut when a simple phone call to the Whitehouse/Kremlin would have been a sensible response? CUI BONO? He managed to contact the Whitehouse and pass on the intelligence ............ but not the Kremlin? Maybe Putin was engaged and Cameron forgot to call again or leave a message? :roll:

Hmmmmm ..... was he told to keep his mouth shut? I would guess that there are few US citizens flying into Sharm ............. most of the flights carry Russians, could it not be that a few dead Russians would only affect Russia? The CIA did this before (successfully) on a Cuban flight (can’t remember the details) the mastermind was identified as an anti-Castro Cuban and the CIA. He fled to Miami with the assistance of the CIA before he could be put on trial. He was and is still is protected by the CIA! (surprise, surprise). So the US (CIA) has form on this sort of escapade.

You should try apply reason instead of just hatred for Putin ......... you might then come to a more reasoned conclusion! :roll: :wink:
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Re: Russian airliner crash ... it almost happened before!

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:14 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
Get Real! wrote:And you believed that a passenger plane (1) has any way of knowing about incoming missiles, and (2) is capable of “dodging” missiles even though they travel several times faster than the plane? :)


I posted the article, which is all over the news broadcasts this morning BECAUSE it had been verified by The Dept. of Transport. Apparently it passed within 300mof the aircraft.

That was an informed source .... your reply is just your ill-informed opinion. Tell me ........ have you ever flown an aircraft, do you know what view you get through a 180 deg. window, at 1000' travelling at around 120mph? You don't have a clue, your just a gob-on-a-stick! :roll: :lol:

Dude... it's GARBAGE! :lol: Stop reading tabloid junk like the Express, Mail, Guardian… they’re all RUBBISH!

Read the reader responses below the article... some of the more informed readers say the same thing I told you.

In future start using that pea in your head. :wink:


It's GARBAGE! Stop reading tabloid junk like the Express, Mail, Guardian… they’re all RUBBISH!

Of course they are because they have the headlines to print! They print before they have all the details .... they have to ..... that makes their stories no more than an index of current events! The details you will find on independent sites like ‘Sputnick’? I prefer ‘Global Reasearch’, ‘Blackliste News’ 'Information Clearing House' etc! Far better articles .... in depth with only the authors bias to consider for credibility.
In future start using that pea in your head.


My ‘pea’ is obviously bigger than your ‘pea’! :wink:
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:20 pm

Robin Hood wrote:My ‘pea’ is obviously bigger than your ‘pea’! :wink:

Ok, I guess fitting missile detecting instruments and quick fighter-jet maneuverability for missile avoidance are optional extras of the airbus. :lol:
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Re: Russian airliner crash ... it almost happened before!

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:09 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:My ‘pea’ is obviously bigger than your ‘pea’! :wink:

Ok, I guess fitting missile detecting instruments and quick fighter-jet maneuverability for missile avoidance are optional extras of the airbus. :lol:


You jest? .... or you have just proved me correct! :) :wink:
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:47 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:My ‘pea’ is obviously bigger than your ‘pea’! :wink:

Ok, I guess fitting missile detecting instruments and quick fighter-jet maneuverability for missile avoidance are optional extras of the airbus. :lol:


You jest? .... or you have just proved me correct! :) :wink:

You're wasting our time with bollocks.
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