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Re: I hold the Flag of Cyprus

Postby kurupetos » Thu May 26, 2016 11:03 am

Get Real! wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:That's because as a foreign-soil-born foreigner, you want to feel *at home* and that is not possible for you when you are reminded how much you (turks) have stolen, how much you (turks) owe to the native Greeks that have made Cyprus a special place.

Native Greeks are in Greece dumbo! :lol:

But anyway, I piss on these “native Greeks” you're imagining to exist in Cyprus just as I piss on the Turks desecrating the land of my Cypriot ancestors.

Plenty of piss to go round for all enemies... :D

I will exile you to Greece, chicken... :twisted:
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Re: I hold the Flag of Cyprus

Postby Sotos » Thu May 26, 2016 11:58 am

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Sotos wrote: he will not be able to get rid of his Frenchness and replace it with Cypriotness no matter how hard he tries.


For me it is not either or, it can be both. Sure with a first generation French immigrant to Cyprus I would be able to tell their Frenchness but that does not mean that there is therefore no room left in them for any Cypriotness, until the Frenchness has been driven out. If they have that 'state of mind and state of heart' that is Cypriot in it's essence, If they have have that connection (emotional, spiritual) to this place, the love for this place, to these mountains and sea and fauna and flora and people and cultures and quirks and peculiarities of this place, then to me they are Cypriot. I am both British and Cypriot, by citizenship and in my own mind and heart. I do not have to become less British in order to be more Cypriot. Being British does not stop or inhibit my connection to this place, my love of this place, these mountains, this sea.


OK. But I think people and culture is the main thing, not the mountains, the sea and trees. For example there are many British expats in Cyprus because they like the environment of Cyprus, but many of them don't really like the people neither they want to be like us... it seems that they want us to be like them instead!
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Re: I hold the Flag of Cyprus

Postby erolz66 » Thu May 26, 2016 12:06 pm

Sotos wrote: OK. But I think people and culture is the main thing, not the mountains, the sea and trees. For example there are many British expats in Cyprus because they like the environment of Cyprus, but many of them don't really like the people neither they want to be like us... it seems that they want us to be like them instead!


Indeed and to me such Brits as you describe are not Cypriot, not in their hearts and minds, even if they might have legal citizenship. My point is that Cypriotness is about 'connection' to this place and all that is in it, be that mountains or people or cultures of this place. It is not for me defined by connection, or lack of connection, to some other place.
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Re: I hold the Flag of Cyprus

Postby Get Real! » Thu May 26, 2016 2:30 pm

kurupetos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:That's because as a foreign-soil-born foreigner, you want to feel *at home* and that is not possible for you when you are reminded how much you (turks) have stolen, how much you (turks) owe to the native Greeks that have made Cyprus a special place.

Native Greeks are in Greece dumbo! :lol:

But anyway, I piss on these “native Greeks” you're imagining to exist in Cyprus just as I piss on the Turks desecrating the land of my Cypriot ancestors.

Plenty of piss to go round for all enemies... :D

I will exile you to Greece, chicken... :twisted:

And I’ll hire a backhoe and knock down the Acropolis, fast-food boy!
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Re: I hold the Flag of Cyprus

Postby MR-from-NG » Thu May 26, 2016 3:33 pm

Sotos wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Sotos wrote: he will not be able to get rid of his Frenchness and replace it with Cypriotness no matter how hard he tries.


For me it is not either or, it can be both. Sure with a first generation French immigrant to Cyprus I would be able to tell their Frenchness but that does not mean that there is therefore no room left in them for any Cypriotness, until the Frenchness has been driven out. If they have that 'state of mind and state of heart' that is Cypriot in it's essence, If they have have that connection (emotional, spiritual) to this place, the love for this place, to these mountains and sea and fauna and flora and people and cultures and quirks and peculiarities of this place, then to me they are Cypriot. I am both British and Cypriot, by citizenship and in my own mind and heart. I do not have to become less British in order to be more Cypriot. Being British does not stop or inhibit my connection to this place, my love of this place, these mountains, this sea.


OK. But I think people and culture is the main thing, not the mountains, the sea and trees. For example there are many British expats in Cyprus because they like the environment of Cyprus, but many of them don't really like the people neither they want to be like us... it seems that they want us to be like them instead!

Fucking right too. Why would a Brit want to behave like an ignorant peasant? The Brits are the kindest, most generous and accommodating nation on the planet, so you should of course inspire to be like them.
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Re: I hold the Flag of Cyprus

Postby supporttheunderdog » Thu May 26, 2016 3:56 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
Sotos wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Sotos wrote: he will not be able to get rid of his Frenchness and replace it with Cypriotness no matter how hard he tries.


For me it is not either or, it can be both. Sure with a first generation French immigrant to Cyprus I would be able to tell their Frenchness but that does not mean that there is therefore no room left in them for any Cypriotness, until the Frenchness has been driven out. If they have that 'state of mind and state of heart' that is Cypriot in it's essence, If they have have that connection (emotional, spiritual) to this place, the love for this place, to these mountains and sea and fauna and flora and people and cultures and quirks and peculiarities of this place, then to me they are Cypriot. I am both British and Cypriot, by citizenship and in my own mind and heart. I do not have to become less British in order to be more Cypriot. Being British does not stop or inhibit my connection to this place, my love of this place, these mountains, this sea.


OK. But I think people and culture is the main thing, not the mountains, the sea and trees. For example there are many British expats in Cyprus because they like the environment of Cyprus, but many of them don't really like the people neither they want to be like us... it seems that they want us to be like them instead!

Fucking right too. Why would a Brit want to behave like an ignorant peasant? The Brits are the kindest, most generous and accommodating nation on the planet, so you should of course inspire to be like them.


While as a Brit I thing there is something (apart from our money) we can bring to Cyprus, just as Cypriots have much to contribute in the UK (beyond kebab shops) I have no desire to turn Cyprus into Britain in the Sun or Cypriots into Brits: I just look at the ignoramii who invade Agia Napa and Paphos every summer.

(if all the Brit girls who went to Agia Napa on holiday were laid from end to end....no one would be surprised......)
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Re: I hold the Flag of Cyprus

Postby Get Real! » Thu May 26, 2016 4:01 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:The Brits are the kindest, most generous and accommodating nation on the planet, so you should of course inspire to be like them.

:shock: :? :lol:

These days I realize that everyone looks at each issue from their own unique perspective making debates utterly pointless! :lol:
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Re: I hold the Flag of Cyprus

Postby supporttheunderdog » Thu May 26, 2016 4:07 pm

Get Real! wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:The Brits are the kindest, most generous and accommodating nation on the planet, so you should of course inspire to be like them.

:shock: :? :lol:

These days I realize that everyone looks at each issue from their own unique perspective making debates utterly pointless! :lol:


It has take you till now to find this out ? :lol: :lol:
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Re: I hold the Flag of Cyprus

Postby Get Real! » Thu May 26, 2016 4:17 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:The Brits are the kindest, most generous and accommodating nation on the planet, so you should of course inspire to be like them.

:shock: :? :lol:

These days I realize that everyone looks at each issue from their own unique perspective making debates utterly pointless! :lol:


It has take you till now to find this out ? :lol: :lol:

Well I used to think that with objective points/arguments you could get someone to see the other side of things... but no more!

Don’t get me wrong STUD, I get along just fine with Brits but I wouldn’t describe them in the way Mitch does! :lol:

But anyway, people should be judged individually regardless of where they come from because you get allsorts from every country.
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Re: I hold the Flag of Cyprus

Postby MR-from-NG » Thu May 26, 2016 4:19 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Sotos wrote:
erolz66 wrote:
Sotos wrote: he will not be able to get rid of his Frenchness and replace it with Cypriotness no matter how hard he tries.


For me it is not either or, it can be both. Sure with a first generation French immigrant to Cyprus I would be able to tell their Frenchness but that does not mean that there is therefore no room left in them for any Cypriotness, until the Frenchness has been driven out. If they have that 'state of mind and state of heart' that is Cypriot in it's essence, If they have have that connection (emotional, spiritual) to this place, the love for this place, to these mountains and sea and fauna and flora and people and cultures and quirks and peculiarities of this place, then to me they are Cypriot. I am both British and Cypriot, by citizenship and in my own mind and heart. I do not have to become less British in order to be more Cypriot. Being British does not stop or inhibit my connection to this place, my love of this place, these mountains, this sea.


OK. But I think people and culture is the main thing, not the mountains, the sea and trees. For example there are many British expats in Cyprus because they like the environment of Cyprus, but many of them don't really like the people neither they want to be like us... it seems that they want us to be like them instead!

Fucking right too. Why would a Brit want to behave like an ignorant peasant? The Brits are the kindest, most generous and accommodating nation on the planet, so you should of course inspire to be like them.


While as a Brit I thing there is something (apart from our money) we can bring to Cyprus, just as Cypriots have much to contribute in the UK (beyond kebab shops) I have no desire to turn Cyprus into Britain in the Sun or Cypriots into Brits: I just look at the ignoramii who invade Agia Napa and Paphos every summer.

(if all the Brit girls who went to Agia Napa on holiday were laid from end to end....no one would be surprised......)

It was said tongue in cheek dog. I'm very much aware that converting a donkey to a racehorse is impossible.
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