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Re: Western Democracy can never work in the ME

Postby Paphitis » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:47 am

It will only be a Nuclear Confrontation if russia make it such.

They are the only one able to turn this into a nuclear confrontation because we don't have a first strike policy.

That's because we only use Nuclear Weapons as a Deterrence to avoid Nuclear Confrontation.

personally, I don't think he is that crazy because that will be the end of Russia, whereas some of our allies will survive and go on even if USA don't, hence if there is a victor it is our side. New Zealand for instance will be ok. :lol:
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Re: Western Democracy can never work in the ME

Postby miltiades » Tue Oct 25, 2016 6:12 am

Paphitis wrote:It will only be a Nuclear Confrontation if russia make it such.

They are the only one able to turn this into a nuclear confrontation because we don't have a first strike policy.

That's because we only use Nuclear Weapons as a Deterrence to avoid Nuclear Confrontation.

personally, I don't think he is that crazy because that will be the end of Russia, whereas some of our allies will survive and go on even if USA don't, hence if there is a victor it is our side. New Zealand for instance will be ok. :lol:

IF THERE IS A VICTOR ??????
There will be only losers mate, no victors. The whole world would be destroyed. It will be the end of the world as we know it.
A nuclear war is highly improbable as all participants will be signing their own destruction, and all are aware of this.
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Re: Western Democracy can never work in the ME

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:06 am

Paphitis:
It will only be a Nuclear Confrontation if russia make it such. They are the only one able to turn this into a nuclear confrontation because we don't have a first strike policy. That's because we only use Nuclear Weapons as a Deterrence to avoid Nuclear Confrontation.


Wrong again .... do you never check before posting your heavily biased rubbish? :roll:

U.S. Keeps First-Strike Strategy - April 6, 2010

WASHINGTON—The Obama administration will release a new national nuclear-weapons strategy Tuesday that makes only modest changes to U.S. nuclear forces, leaving intact the longstanding U.S. threat to use nuclear weapons first, even against non-nuclear nations.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304620304575166263632513790

..... more up to date confirmation.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/09/07/pers-s07.html


Such a policy has been the US’s stance for years. Russia only recently adopted the ‘first strike’ option when NATO started building up their offensive capability right on Russia's borders. US/NATO ....... claimed Aegis (?) was a defensive system to intercept Iranian missiles ....... the fact that the system has been upgraded with missiles that can hit St. Petersburg in less than a minute and Moscow in a few minutes was what prompted the Russians change in policy.

personally, I don't think he is that crazy because that will be the end of Russia, whereas some of our allies will survive and go on even if USA don't, hence if there is a victor it is our side. New Zealand for instance will be ok.


It’s the US that is crazy because the US’s Neocons actually believe that the US cannot be attacked and that therefore they will win any nuclear confrontation. They appear to be as ‘smart’ as you! :roll:

As Milti points out ..... if it goes nuclear we all lose, even New Zealand ..... and the country most likely to precipitate such an event is the US ! Faced with being destroyed anyway, any country will make sure the aggressor also goes down .......... that is the idea of a deterrent. If you have a country which believes it is immune from such a retaliatory attack, as the US does .......... then they are more likely to strike first. Common sense! :wink:
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Re: Western Democracy can never work in the ME

Postby Paphitis » Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:26 am

Oh good, I am relieved that the USA has abandoned The First Strike Policy. They do have a First Strike Policy against States that have Nuclear Weapons or weapons of mass destruction as should always be the case. Both Russia and Assad have these weapons so we are all green.

This is great news!

The USA should also abandon destroying its plutonium stockpiles since Russia has already violated the Treaty!
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Re: Western Democracy can never work in the ME

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:32 am

Paphitis;

Oh good, I am relieved that the USA has abandoned The First Strike Policy. They do have a First Strike Policy against States that have Nuclear Weapons or weapons of mass destruction as should always be the case. Both Russia and Assad have these weapons so we are all green.

This is great news!


Goodness .... you are so dumb! It is like trying to explain quantum physics to a five year old ...... you just don't understand and somehow I doubt you ever will! :roll:

What is so difficult to understand about this statement by The US "...... leaving intact the longstanding U.S. threat to use nuclear weapons first, even against non-nuclear nations." Note! .... against non-nuclear nations ..... in case you have difficulty in understanding that statement ..... it applies to any state whether nuclear or not..

As the US has proven time and time again, it cannot be trusted to stick to any agreements or comply with international law, it is a rogue nation; does it then surprise you that Russia should now reinstate the first strike option ? Lavrof has made it clear that because NATO has its weapons sitting on Russia's borders ..... at the first and slightest indication of NATO aggression, Russia will launch some pretty awesome munitions, mainly into Europe as there will be no time to make a phone call to verify it is not an accident ..... like when you attacked the Syrian Army a couple of weeks ago ..... killing 62! Remember that incident? One twitch and you are not talking 62 you are talking millions of Europeans. Closely followed by millions of Americans ...... then Millions of Russians ...... then China will wipe out Australia and take for free what they now have to pay for ...... and you have sod all to fight back with because you are not a member of the nuclear club! :roll: :lol:
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Re: Western Democracy can never work in the ME

Postby Paphitis » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:52 am

As I was saying, between the USA and Russia, pootin would be the more likely to begin a Nuclear exchange. He has a short fuse and appears to be all over the place. A bit like a small poodle really!

All the military exhibitionism is quite hilarious and just indicates to us that the poor bloke has a complex. probably unstable to be in charge of Nuclear Weapons. And what is funnier, is that the engine of the Kuznetsov appears ready to blow up. I can just imagine the private laughter of the Americans when they see it.

The lesson we have learned, is not to trust him ever again, because his signature isn't worth the paper it is written on.

The USA should back out of the Plutonium non Proliferation Treaty just like pootin violated it.

BTW, the amendment was just a proposal. it was never passed! now be a good boy and give me an official government link that say's the USA has a Nuclear strike Policy against non Nuclear states. now stop quoting WSJ Articles from 2010 old chum and play nice by giving us some valid official links. there are plenty out there you know, which do not agree with you at all. don't make me do it!

https://www.armscontrol.org/act/1999_07-08/jmja99

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Re: Western Democracy can never work in the ME

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:22 pm

You have had my reply and I have posted links including an update. You disagree, then prove you are right in your assumptions and reasoning. :roll:
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