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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby Paphitis » Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:13 am

Zenon33 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Is Pootin now ready to join the Coalition?

Come on mate! We won't bight!

Seems the only way to save some face now.

Perhaps not such a super power after all!




The US will join the Putin Coalition under Trump's presidency.
Wait and see.


I doubt it!

If there is one thing Trump has, is an ego at least on par if not greater, than Pootin.

there is no chance Trump will be doing such a thing and there is no way Congress, or the Pentagon will let him.

Who do you think is in charge in America?

America will lose its allies. The will all abandon ship. And all the bases will be asked to leave.

Australia, japan, South Korea, Holland, France and Germany will be gone for sure. So the Americans won't be doing that. No more Pine gap.

Look, trump wouldn't be allowed to do any such thing by the deep state and his ego won't allow him either. America has never been in a better position in the Middle east in a long time thanks to Russia. They are now the least hated of all. for once we are not seen as the aggressor trying to conquer and dominate the Arabs and the entire region. Even Al Qaeda and DAESH don't have the Americans high on their terrorism list anymore. It's early days and who knows what will happen, but I predict any budding terrorist will be looking towards syria and Russia from now on.

The war is proceeding very well for us in terms of maintaining the Status Quo and strengthening the Coalition's hand which has never been this strong. Coalition is hoping for the recommencement of negotiations to end the war.

Praise allah! :lol:
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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:22 am

Paphitis wrote:
Zenon33 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Is Pootin now ready to join the Coalition?

Come on mate! We won't bight!

Seems the only way to save some face now.

Perhaps not such a super power after all!




The US will join the Putin Coalition under Trump's presidency.
Wait and see.


I doubt it!

If there is one thing Trump has, is an ego at least on par if not greater, than Pootin.

there is no chance Trump will be doing such a thing and there is no way Congress, or the Pentagon will let him.

Who do you think is in charge in America?

America will lose its allies. The will all abandon ship. And all the bases will be asked to leave.

Australia, japan, South Korea, Holland, France and Germany will be gone for sure. So the Americans won't be doing that. No more Pine gap.

Look, trump wouldn't be allowed to do any such thing by the deep state and his ego won't allow him either. America has never been in a better position in the Middle east in a long time thanks to Russia. They are now the least hated of all. for once we are not seen as the aggressor trying to conquer and dominate the Arabs and the entire region. Even Al Qaeda and DAESH don't have the Americans high on their terrorism list anymore. It's early days and who knows what will happen, but I predict any budding terrorist will be looking towards syria and Russia from now on.

The war is proceeding very well for us in terms of maintaining the Status Quo and strengthening the Coalition's hand which has never been this strong. Coalition is hoping for the recommencement of negotiations to end the war.

Praise allah! :lol:


More fantasy and illiterate opinion? The usual bullsh*t and not worth the time needed to reply ..... you never respond anyway with anything intelligent ...... just your own hot air and nobody but you takes it seriously. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby Paphitis » Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:25 am

Oh yeh, all our defensive measures, alliances and Defence Systems are bullshit are they?

Well sorry, but its our houses, and we will secure ourselves as we see fit. We don't want to get hit by one of those SATAN 2 ICBMs after all!

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_49635.htm
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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:40 am

Paphitis wrote:Oh yeh, all our defensive measures, alliances and Defence Systems are bullshit are they?

Against SATAN? .... the experts seem to be of that opinion. I believe the Iskander is also pretty difficult to defend against, but not impossible like SATAN appears to be.

Well sorry, but its our houses, and we will secure ourselves as we see fit. We don't want to get hit by one of those SATAN 2 ICBMs after all!

YOU can't avoid them ..... see what ALL the military experts say..... THERE IS NO DEFENCE !

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_49635.htm

Once again you didn't read what you linked to ...... BMD is UNDER DEVELOPMENT! They also claim NATO is a defensive organisation ......... it is as much 'defensive' ....... as IS is a benevolent charity organisation !

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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby Paphitis » Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:41 am

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Paphitis wrote:Oh yeh, all our defensive measures, alliances and Defence Systems are bullshit are they?

Against SATAN? .... the experts seem to be of that opinion. I believe the Iskander is also pretty difficult to defend against, but not impossible like SATAN appears to be.

Well sorry, but its our houses, and we will secure ourselves as we see fit. We don't want to get hit by one of those SATAN 2 ICBMs after all!

YOU can't avoid them ..... see what ALL the military experts say..... THERE IS NO DEFENCE !

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_49635.htm

Once again you didn't read what you linked to ...... BMD is UNDER DEVELOPMENT! They also claim NATO is a defensive organisation ......... it is as much 'defensive' ....... as IS is a benevolent charity organisation !



What opinion? it's never been tested against our defensive systems.

Don't worry, we have an opinion about our tested Anti Ballistic Missile Shields. it's the best on the planet.

Why do you think Russia wants them gone? No chance btw because its none of his business and we have a right to self defence against Russian aggression.

What we do know, is that Russia is a lot more vulnerable to our ICBMs than we are from his. but whatever floats your boat hey!
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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:34 am

Paphitis:

What opinion? it's never been tested against our defensive systems.


So ..... only a live test is good enough for you? :lol: :lol:

Don't worry, we have an opinion about our tested Anti Ballistic Missile Shields. it's the best on the planet.


An opinion as you so frequently prove, is not the same as a proven system, because YOU haven't tested them against the perceived 'threat' ? Isn't that your criteria"? :lol: :lol:

Why do you think Russia wants them gone? No chance btw because its none of his business and we have a right to self defence against Russian aggression.


Please explain your claim of Russian aggression? Russia wants them gone because they are an existential threat to the Russian homeland! If YOU have the right to self defence you must have convinced yourself there is a threat. What Russia does in response to YOUR threat within their own borders is none of your business either because it is no direct threat to YOU.

What we do know, is that Russia is a lot more vulnerable to our ICBMs than we are from his. but whatever floats your boat hey!


Using your criteria again, how do you KNOW that? You have not had to use them for defence ..... only attack in various undefended sovereign states mostly in the middle east. You are now facedwith a State that is defended... Syria ..... something the US has not had to face before. None of these states are or can be a threat to the USA. What you overlook is that the Russian land mass is many times larger than that of the US. If you add all the US/NATO 'protectorates' to that then maybe a nearer comparison ..... but now look at population density. Take Australia .... half a dozen SATAN's on the main cities and its curtains ...... the rest is just mountains and desert! Europe would disappear in the same way ...... let us hope that the stupidity and arrogance you project is not representative of the USA. If it is then if Clinton gets in ..... the US will likely have a chance to test ALL its ICBM's and defensive systems ....... and everybody on the Planet looses!!!! :( :x :x :x
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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby Paphitis » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:52 am

We have tested them, and spent a lot of money - over $800 Billion Dollars in fact and the program will be finished in 2025.

We test these missiles all the time against our own missiles and some of them have seen action.

The West spends a lot of time, money and effort building these defences, in case of a Nuclear Holocaust.

Russia on the other hand doesn't, therefore, I consider myself lucky to be on the right side.

You have made these Nuclear threats. thankfully, pootin isn't so stupid.

mutually assured destruction is such a cliche in defence talk. Western defence policy has always been focused on how our side will out-survive the enemy in the event of a Nuclear holocaust so don't bet on the West's destruction before Russia is wiped off the face. The only thing we can be sure about is the complete destruction of Russia in its entirety. I wouldn't be so sure about Mutually Assured Destruction. Sure you will hit some of our cities if it came to that. But Russia will need many more goes at it in order to get them passed our Goalkeepers. After about 6 hours, there will be no more SATANs to threaten us, and our civilization will continue. Russia will have to ofcouse seek membership as a "Small State of Europe" with Cyprus.

But if that is what you believe, it's no skin off my nose because I know pootin isn't crazy.

It doesn't work that way!

There are reasons why we have spent $800 billion on this Defence Missile Shield and why it warrants so much investment. You work it out. We do it because our existence may depend on it. And no matter what pootin thinks, we have every right to be investing in these kinds of defencive Measures when Russia invests in things like SATAN.

The USA has about 3000 Nuclear warheads. it has them as a deterrent. But, it makes no difference if the West only had 1000 warheads in total. for us, our Missile defence shield is an extremely important aspect. just as important as our Nuclear Arsenal.

But we would be even happier to have no Nuclear Warheads but that isn't a possibility for as long as others have them.
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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby Paphitis » Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:30 am

Oh and btw, its pretty sick that you have displayed so much hatred for the West that you would actually go against your own people, your own country, and wish upon it total and complete annihilation.

If you were a decent person, you would be hoping that such a thing never befalls humanity.

NATO, The West, Coalition, never want to be in a position to have to rely on its Missile Defence Shield or use its own Nuclear weapons on Russia or others.

We have a Missile Shield because we do not trust Russia and probably never will. without it, we are more vulnerable.

And what you are witnessing in Syria, after Russia's "show of strength" is a very clear message that the Coalition has a line in the sand. Russia has taken the piss out of us for a long time now, thinking there will be no push back. But now, there is some push back and you don't like it do you?

Well, get use to it.

Soon you will have no other option but to begin compromising over Assad. Pootin should get on with it and if he is smart, begin a dialogue with the USA and start behaving himself.

Pootin tested the waters and the Coalition heated the water to boiling point and pootin got third degree burns from it. It was only a matter of time.

like a bully in the school yard. Eventually he gets a punch in the face.
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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:31 pm

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We have tested them, and spent a lot of money - over $800 Billion Dollars in fact and the program will be finished in 2025
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Too late! If you start a war now the consequences would be catastrophic. Like the Israeli's I believe the Russians have a Samson type Option. You go for us .... then we retaliate and we take you with us ! The Russians, as with the Israeli's know what will happen if an enemy attacks them and they have their backs against the wall. Remember, in living memory mainland US has never been attacked ..... they don't know what war is, Russia does ! :x

We test these missiles all the time against our own missiles and some of them have seen action.


But YOUR missiles are inferior to the Russian ones. They have only ever seen action against States that had no capacity to defend themselves or fight back on equal terms. The reason I have explained before ..... the US has a policy of a projection of their might against others ..... history clearly demonstrates that. The Russians have know for decades what the US is doing and that THEY are on the shopping list along with China and Iran. Knowing they do not want to extend their military presence, unlike the US, they have worked toward a system that will nullify the US's all too obvious aggression ..... they have developed defensive systems that will make the US aggressive weapons ineffective. They have already demonstrated that LIVE.

The West spends a lot of time, money and effort building these defences, in case of a Nuclear Holocaust.


But the country most likely to start an nuclear war ..... Israel ..... they arm and pay $3.3bn a year toward their defence! Again, ask a simple question, when was The State of Israel ever seriously attacked by any of the neighbouring countries?

Russia on the other hand doesn't, therefore, I consider myself lucky to be on the right side.


That is rubbish ......... how do you know that? :roll:

You have made these Nuclear threats. thankfully, pootin isn't so stupid.


Putin has said time-and-time again he has no intent of starting any wars, he has no interest in expanding the Russian footprint but is ready to defend Russia from ever increasing aggression from the US and NATO. That aggression is there for all to see right around Russia ..... right around Iran (who have no nuclear weapons) ...... and right around China.

mutually assured destruction is such a cliche in defence talk. Western defence policy has always been focused on how our side will out-survive the enemy in the event of a Nuclear holocaust so don't bet on the West's destruction before Russia is wiped off the face.


The instant Russia perceives a threat from the US directly or from NATO sitting right on its borders, Russian missiles will be in the air! Lavrof has warned you that because NATO is so close .... there will be no time for verification of any launch, it will have to be taken as an attack on Russia and Russia will respond accordingly, As for 'accordingly' I would take that to mean instant nuclear war!

That is what Mutually Assured Destruction' is or are you too stupid to see that? Nobody wins .... we all go down the same plug hole!

The only thing we can be sure about is the complete destruction of Russia in its entirety.


Likewise the........ US/Europe ........ and more remote allies such as Australia, New Zealand and Canada. Do not underestimate your enemy!

I wouldn't be so sure about Mutually Assured Destruction. Sure you will hit some of our cities if it came to that. But Russia will need many more goes at it in order to get them passed our Goalkeepers.


Your 'Goalkeepers' are useless until you have developed a system that can track a missile that changes its flight geometry continuously. Russia have had a head start of maybe 20-25 years, on the US in such systems and that comes from US analysts.

After about 6 hours, there will be no more SATANs to threaten us, and our civilization will continue. Russia will have to of course seek membership as a "Small State of Europe" with Cyprus.


Six hours ...... boy, a realist you ain't ! Where do you get six hours from ..... your usual source? After 6 hours this Planet will be dead, a smouldering ball of nuclear dust .... that will last for hundreds of years .... and contaminate the soil for thousands of years. Not a lot to look forward to .... when the Elite crawl out from their nuclear bunkers a couple of years after things went pear shaped. :x

But if that is what you believe, it's no skin off my nose because I know pootin isn't crazy.


Exactly ..... Putin is not crazy, unlike the options for POTUS! He has been several steps ahead of the coalition in Syria from the time the first Russian aircraft landed on Syrian soil ..... legally by invitation. He has achieved a lot in the year that Russia has been engaged in Syria.

It doesn't work that way!


I agree it certainly doesn't work the way you think it does .... that's for sure, and needs nothing more than common sense to work that out. :roll:

There are reasons why we have spent $800 billion on this Defence Missile Shield and why it warrants so much investment. You work it out. We do it because our existence may depend on it. And no matter what pootin thinks, we have every right to be investing in these kinds of defencive Measures when Russia invests in things like SATAN.


Didn't it start as the 'Star Wars' project during Reagans term in office ? Russia can already defend, the US would find it difficult to because, once again, their philosophy has been one of hegemony and aggression against States that will not comply, the Russians took the defensive tack, they knew what was coming ! SATAN has been developed over the last 5-6 years (I think) and is their deterrent against your arsenal of weapons..... mostly 40-50 years old .

The USA has about 3000 Nuclear warheads. it has them as a deterrent. But, it makes no difference if the West only had 1000 warheads in total. for us, our Missile defence shield is an extremely important aspect. just as important as our Nuclear Arsenal.


But 'Star Wars' was a failure ..... what is it about 'THERE CURRENTLY IS NO DEFENCE AGAINST SATAN'' that you fail to grasp ? Your own military experts say that .... all of them. I would take their opinion against yours any day!
But we would be even happier to have no Nuclear Warheads but that isn't a possibility for as long as others have them.


So why is the US the one that rejects all Russia's attempts on formulating nuclear arms reduction and still ignore/cover for Israel's circa 400 illegal nuclear missiles, as well as its vast chemical and biological weapons stock piles? :roll:
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Re: Coalition invites Pootin to join

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:37 pm

Paphitis wrote:Oh and btw, its pretty sick that you have displayed so much hatred for the West that you would actually go against your own people, your own country, and wish upon it total and complete annihilation.

If you were a decent person, you would be hoping that such a thing never befalls humanity.

NATO, The West, Coalition, never want to be in a position to have to rely on its Missile Defence Shield or use its own Nuclear weapons on Russia or others.

We have a Missile Shield because we do not trust Russia and probably never will. without it, we are more vulnerable.

And what you are witnessing in Syria, after Russia's "show of strength" is a very clear message that the Coalition has a line in the sand. Russia has taken the piss out of us for a long time now, thinking there will be no push back. But now, there is some push back and you don't like it do you?

Well, get use to it.

Soon you will have no other option but to begin compromising over Assad. Pootin should get on with it and if he is smart, begin a dialogue with the USA and start behaving himself.

Pootin tested the waters and the Coalition heated the water to boiling point and pootin got third degree burns from it. It was only a matter of time.

like a bully in the school yard. Eventually he gets a punch in the face.


As I have pointed out before your reading skills and ability to understand what you read, is badly lacking! :roll:

Another post from you that is a waste of server space and just a load of self opinion and hot air, with no basis in reality ! :roll:
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