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Papadopulos And His Lies...

Postby PEACE » Sun Sep 19, 2004 3:26 pm

I couldn't see if members discussed about Papadopulos' lies... He said no TCs were killed during 1963-1974 period and many more...

’No solution in foreseeable future’
By Simon Bahceli

President gives controversial interview to Dubai paper.

PRESIDENT Tassos Papadopoulos says a settlement on Cyprus that insists on political equality between Turkish and Greek Cypriots will be unworkable and that a solution to the island’s division is still more than 20 years away.

The comments appeared in an interview Papadopoulos gave to the Dubai-based Khaleej Times last week.

The statement will undoubtedly cause concern among peace campaigners on both sides of the Green Line, who see Cyprus as closer than ever to a solution.

In the interview Papadopoulos slams the UN’s Annan plan for giving too much power to the Turkish Cypriot side.

“The Turkish Cypriots…will have 50-50 in everything, in each and every decision,” he said. He added this situation would lead to “lots of problems”.

“There would be two heads in every department. A two-state federation means half-half power,” he adds.

Papadopoulos said he believed such a system would seriously hinder the workings of the state.
“The head, who may be Greek, couldn’t give his approval until his deputy, who must be a Turk, steps in. It means that work would be hindered”.

Papadopoulos, however, concedes in the interview that straight majority-rule democracy could also pose problems in a place like Cyprus where sizeable minorities exist.

“Democracy, in principle, is based on the majority opinion. I accept that, but in our case, it will not work.”

He bemoaned the political equality envisaged in the Annan plan as giving more power to the Turkish Cypriot minority than it does to the Greek Cypriot majority.

“The minority has all the rights, even if the Turkish Cypriots are 18 per cent of the population. On the contrary, the majority doesn’t have the same power,” he was reported as saying.

The President said he believes, “some other solution should be tried or the state issue will never be solved”.

But when pressed on why he backed a ‘no’ vote in April’s referendum on the plan, Papadopoulos told the newspaper, “We said ‘no’ because we feel insecure”.

“I was afraid their [Turkey’s] troops would remain on the island after the referendum, and we are a very small and weak nation”.

He conceded, that Turkey was now attempting to deal with the problems its occupation of the north posed.

“Turkey is trying to solve the problem now, but at the same time it does not want to pull out its forced from the north.

“If Turkey doesn’t do that [withdraw]… I think it will not be able to join the EU,” he added.
Papadopoulos denied that he or the Greek Cypriots rejected the Annan plan for economic reasons.

Papadopoulos told Khaleej Times how he met with a Turkish Cypriot leader before discussions on the Annan plan and asked for a postponement – something the unnamed leader, apparently, agreed to.

He went on to say that – had negotiations been delayed – he and his Turkish Cypriot counterpart might have been able to “solve all problems”.

Without a doubt, of all of Papadopoulos’ reported comments, the one most likely to cause anger in the Turkish Cypriot community where he denied any atrocities being committed by Greek Cypriot militants against Turkish Cypriots.

“From the beginning, they [Turkish Cypriots] were planning for a separation. But, in fact, the Turkish Cypriots were the ones who committed massacres. In 1963 we asked to increase the police patrols, but they refused. From 1963 to 1974 how many Turkish Cypriots were killed? The answer is none”.


Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2004




:arrow: So what's your comments on Papadopulos' statements?I think he is a big liar and it's impossible to find a solution to Cyprus Problem till he is there...
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Postby erolz » Sun Sep 19, 2004 4:02 pm

Already being discussed here

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=429

and a related (to Papadopolous' 'lies') Cyprus Mail article here

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 2&cat_id=1
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Postby PEACE » Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:19 pm

erolz wrote:Already being discussed here

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=429

and a related (to Papadopolous' 'lies') Cyprus Mail article here

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 2&cat_id=1


Thanks, erolz! :wink:
I'll look to the discussion ! :wink: I couldn't follow the forum so i'm missing big things time to time...
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Postby brother » Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:35 pm

I said it before i will say it again popadopalous is only interested in the seperation of cyprus and nothing will change him.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:36 pm

I said it before i will say it again popadopalous is only interested in the seperation of cyprus and nothing will change him.


Where do you base your statement?
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:45 pm

On the history of the man, his recent interview in the Arab newspaper and his speach in the UN assembly (where were all the delegates?).

I am sorry I reply first, but it is quite obvious what Papadopoulos wants. He prefers partition than any sort of an agreed solution. This is because he has never accepted political equality of the two communities. Sadly, he appears to be getting his own, but do not blame him. That's Papadopoulos. He has always been of this philosophy. The real culprit is Christofias, who elevated a chauvinist and nationalist person like Papadopoulos to the highest public post.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Tue Sep 28, 2004 11:10 pm

Do not underestimate Papadopoulos!

If its partition that he wants it would have happened long ago.

The man is clever. I think he's got a few tricks up his sleeve.

Since the referendum he has pretty much been right in assessing how things will have gone. The situation could have been much much worse after the GC no. But it isn't.

We shall have to see what happenes in the next few months to see if he was correct or not.
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Postby brother » Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:05 pm

Well the first part has been answered were this originates from.



Yes he is a smart lawyer who knows that his political game must be played in such a way that not to alienate the E.U against the G.C so he will take his time keep things as they are try to blame the other side (which he has admitted before was always the R.O.C stratergy) and eventually make it seem like he tried and divide the island for good.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:09 am

One other factor that also seems to be ignored is the economic potential of the north. Before the invasion, the northern part of Cyprus accounted for 70% of economic activity.

This is one other reason why I think Papadopoulos does not want partition. If it ever happened, then southern Cyprus would economically suffer. The agricultural output of the Mesaoria plain is massive compared to the agricultural sector in the south. The tourist industry in the north would boom becasue quite frankly it is far prettier than many areas in the south.

There are undoubtably many areas where the GC's excell, such as in banking and finance. We would be in constant competition with the north, and it would be an unhealthy competition which would probably turn very sour for both sides.

It is therefore from the economic point of view better to have a unified Cyprus than a divided one.
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Postby brother » Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:34 am

Do not get me wrong i am for unity but tassos is not we all know the financial gains of unity from two weak halves would emerge one strong whole but tassos is for division and nothing you or i say will change that but for the record i hope i am wrong and he champions the cause and does what others have failed to do, for the sake of all cypriots.
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